Ars Technica article

Chris bsd-lists at BSDforge.com
Mon Apr 13 09:13:55 UTC 2020


On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 01:11:30 -0600 Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com said

> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:24 PM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe at freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> > [ setting CC to a more appropriate -x11@ list ]
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:43:00AM +0000, Niclas Zeising wrote:
...big snip...
> in this part of the stack: the drm-kmod maintainer's job shifted so he's
> had to resign from that role. We have nobody to even update to newer Linux
> driver versions (though we might have a promising person in the wings).
> There's literally nobody that has the time, the hardware, the docs and the
> expertise to help with this older video hardware (at least as evidence of
> it's remaining broken for a long, long time). Until that person shows up,
> you will unfortunately be out of luck.

OK I've bit my tongue as long as I can on this...
How is importing yet more Linux code into FreeBSD a better thing? Or how
is it *fixing* anything regarding FreeBSD. For clarity; I don't dislike
Linux. I just prefer to use (Free)BSD. I'm frankly alarmed with the apparent
volume that Linux code is entering the FreeBSD code base. I noticed much of
the UEFI bits are also converted Linux bits. I suppose for a quick needed
stop-gap solution it might be reasonable. But it appears that a tremendous
amount of time, and effort has gone into all this, and given the previously
mentioned lack of man-power. It seems unlikely that any of this will be
replaced with a FreeBSD equivalent. I'm not blowing smoke here. I earmarked
some time that I wouldn't be taking contracts so that I could invest some
time on FreeBSD concerning "nits" I had that I thought could improve things
a bit. I looked into taking the time to make it nearly/fully POSIX complaint.
Browsing the code. It was clear I wouldn't stand a chance unless I started
at ~9.x where it starts to go sideways in fairly rapid succession. So I
decided to look elsewhere. I've had some nits with the Graphics dept. so
I thought I'd look to see where I could best spend my efforts. Then the new
Xorg landed. Well that's going a *completely* different direction than it
was, and I don't think I want to participate in that new direction.
I've finally landed on working on bolstering sc/syscons in an effort to
provide graphics mode switching and detection to it.

Sorry if I've usurped this thread. But it's really been bothering me,
and I think others. So I just said it.

Thank you for your indulgence.

--Chris

Oh! I'm *not* directing this at you Warner. Just responding in the thread.
> 
> Warner
> 
> ./danfe
> >
> > *) https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237642
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