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[blubee blubeeme]

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Greg V <greg at unrelenting.technology> wrote:

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> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:48 PM, blubee blubeeme <gurenchan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> There's absolutely no reason for anyone to invest any resources into
> developing a proper graphics stack for FreeBSD if the FreeBSD devs are only
> going to rely on Jerry-rigged stuff from Linux. The mailing list is
> bombarded by regressions and issues with the Linuxkpi stuff. For
> lightweight stuff sure, use the Linuxkpi if u have to but for a major
> component of the platform, that's just pathetic. There are talented devs
> out there who can get the work done, they just need to be financing, then
> organized. Seeing as most other platforms got their networking stack from
> BSD, it's a sad state when FreeBSD has to use Linuxkpi to get networking
> drivers. If stating that the FreeBSD graphics stack is in a sad position is
> "shitting on people" then I'm guilty of that. I just know that we can and
> should do better.
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> As if the graphics stack doesn't have lots of issues and regressions *on
> Linux*.
> Heck, proprietary vendor drivers on Windows often have worse issues than
> the open source graphics stack!
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> FreeBSD is not in a sad position, it's in a great position.
> I'm literally writing this from a Weston desktop that uses atomic
> modesetting on AMDGPU DC (on a Polaris card). VA-API video acceleration
> works. Vulkan (RADV) works both in X11 and Wayland apps. OpenCL (Clover)
> works. Overclocking the GPU and VRAM works.
> This is awesome! I can't imagine anything better. A couple years ago we
> barely had i915 Haswell support.
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> There is NOTHING wrong with a compatibility layer like LinuxKPI. The only
> better way would be a standardized kernel interface that all Unix-like
> kernels agree on. Good luck with getting them to agree on *anything*.
>
> And yeah, speaking of network, my Mellanox ConnectX-2 works fine. So both
> of the things I have plugged into PCIe on my tower have LinuxKPI based
> drivers :P
>

Great, I am happy for you.