kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails

[Patrick Powell]

On 07/04/14 16:28, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell <papowell at astart.com 
> <mailto:papowell at astart.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>         On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
>
>             This discussion begs the question of why won't
>             WITH_NEW_XORG work for you?
>             I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no
>             support in recent
>             Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as
>             time passes, the bit
>             rot will make more and more things fail with the old code.
>
>             I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the
>             failure you see
>             WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf,
>             /etc/src.conf and
>             any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and
>             might not). x11@
>             is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X
>             issues.
>
>             I should also recommend that, if you have not already
>             tried, move your
>             Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is
>             very rare to
>             require a full configuration these days. Most only need
>             things for added
>             fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is
>             only about 27 lines
>             long and mostly added fonts.
>
>         ports/UPDATING states:
>         20140218:
>           AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4
>           AUTHOR: kde at FreeBSD.org
>
>           KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin,
>         kdenetwork, kdesdk,
>           and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes.
>
>           KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires
>         modern
>           Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update
>         Xorg ports
>           to newer version follow instructions at
>         https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
>
>         So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG.
>
>         -Koop
>
>     Ahhh!!! I  missed that.
>
>     If this is the case,  then perhaps the default for generating the
>     PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG?
>     Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications.
>
>     OR: we could have two repositories:  one which uses
>     WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support
>     and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4
>     support.
>
>     I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't
>     recall the outcome.
>
>
> Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories 
> were available a few hours ago.
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce
>
> The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64.
> -- 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
> E-mail: rkoberman at gmail.com <mailto:rkoberman at gmail.com>
Huzzah!  Hurrah.... Ummm... hold on a bit here...

No 8.4 support?  Why not just toss it in,  with the usual:

Warning!  Here there be dragons.  Or at least untested and verified 
packages. These have been compiled with make.conf containing:
MAKE_NEW_XORG=yes

At least doing this will provide KDE4 packages in an easy to access 
fashion.  As for the XORG support,  this seems to work fine for me as 
well,  so I do not need compatibility with the old drivers...

Yes, yes... sloth.