I do not quite understand why a BIND upgrade needs to touch soo much.

[Trond Endrestøl]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:10+0100, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:

> On 15-12-2014 22:26, Brandon Allbery wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Willem Jan Withagen <wjw at digiware.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So I'm building my packages with poudriere and using pkg (1.4.0)
> >>> to upgrade bind. With the sort of shocking result:
> >>> ======================
> >>> Installed packages to be REMOVED:
> >>>         gettext-0.18.3.1_1
> >>>
> >>
> >> That first one is the key. Bind depends on gettext --- as does pretty much
> >> every other package in existence --- and gettext underwent a massive
> >> breaking change, which is kinda deranging everything else. The recent
> >> /usr/ports/UPDATING entry for gettext has the gory details.
> >>
> > 
> > To explain a bit further: this time, your portupgrade would do a lot of
> > extra work as well. bind is not self-contained; it has dependencies, some
> > of which are shared by other packages. If you want your bind update to be
> > self-contained then you'll need to make your own port and package from it
> > containing its own gettext, so you can upgrade that one package without
> > breaking every other package that depends on gettext. Otherwise, you just
> > have to accept that a package other than bind, which bind and just about
> > everything else depends on, *also* changed; and you can't just upgrade bind
> > without upgrading gettext *and* either upgrading or removing the other
> > packages that depend on the old gettext.
> 
> Yup, more than true in the ultimate case.
> Although 'portupgrade bind99' in this case did not require any other
> packages to be upgraded too.
> 
> I've been hesitant in upgrading other packages with less security
> pressure, because of the huge list with extra's.

> And you are right, this change in gettext is going to bite at some
> point. (besides from building things with static linked libs.)

While YMMV, I use portupgrade and not pkg, and upgrading gettext was 
pretty much less painful than indicated by the UPDATING entry.

Simply run:

portupgrade -fpvo devel/gettext-runtime gettext
cd /usr/ports/devel/gettext-tools && make && make install && make package && make clean
cd /usr/ports/devel/gettext && make && make install && make package && make clean
portupgrade -fprvx gettext -x gettext-runtime -x gettext-tools devel/gettext-runtime
 
> Still leaves the point that 'pkg upgrade bind99' removes packages
> without reinstalling those. The only alternatives are:
>  -	pkg upgrade, and everything is upgraded
>  -	capture the list of deletion, and manually re-add them after
> 	the upgrade
> 
> Neither solution is something I look forward too.
> 
> --WjW

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