FreeBSD 9.0-BETA3 Available...

Arnaud Lacombe lacombar at
Wed Oct 5 00:19:48 UTC 2011


On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Vlad Galu <dudu at> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar at> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Joshua Boyd <boydjd at> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar at> wrote:
>>>> Had you loved so much to have this information, you would have given
>>>> me credential.
>>>> I may have filled in all the date from publicly available material,
>>>> might it be from mailing list, or from FTP server's timestamp, or SVN
>>>> revision date. If I had not been able to determine a date, I may just
>>>> have left it blank and asked for details, eventually.
>>>> Unfortunately, we will never know.
>>> It's nice that you want to help, but could you be less of a jerk about it to
>>> the people who devote a huge amount of time to the project?
>> Which ones:
>>  - those who do not upgrade release information in release cycle ?
>>  - those who commit broken stuff ?
>>  - those who knowingly misdocument interfaces ?
>>  - those who ignore obvious fixes ?
>>  - those who ignore users request ?
>>  - those who ignore users bugs ?
>>  - those who refuses to share their work-in-progress ?
>>  - those who tell you you're wrong for months to finally acknowledge
>> you are right, and commit your fixes ?
> Arnaud, everybody is doing their best. If members or groups within the
> FreeBSD project are under contractual obligation to meet your
> expectations, please feel free to take this off-list. Otherwise, if
> you feel there are similar projects with better management, perhaps
> they're better suited for you.
Maybe phk@ is not so wrong when he advocates for liability laws for
software makers.

However, starting the liability clauses list with a loophole (clause
1) sounds like a fraud, especially for a software contractor[0]. After
all, even people selling raw materials can be liable if the material
sold did not behave as it should have and caused damages.

Though, ending up speaking about contractual work and liability when
someone originally did not want to relinquish write access to a wiki
is rather sad...

 - Arnaud

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