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Damien Fleuriot ml at
Thu Jun 23 04:22:56 UTC 2011

On 6/23/11 6:05 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:08:57PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote:
>> * Damien Fleuriot <ml at> [2011-06-23 03:56:54 +0200]:
>>> On 23 Jun 2011, at 01:02, George Kontostanos <gkontos.mail at> wrote:
>>>> Look, I think that this is getting personal and not constructive at all.
>>>> Stop mumbling unless you have something useful to add.
>>> How about you do what he says and stop top posting, as per the list's policy ?
>>> Annoying pretty much everyone in the list with your stubbornness about 
>>> top posting and your misplaced rudeness towards a helper might result 
>>> in a drop in the number of people willing to spend time helping you.
>> This will be my last post on this topic. George you are rude and I know 
>> I will not be offering any more suggestions for you. I foresee few 
>> others willing to help you now as well. Jeremy has willingly given you a 
>> great amount of detail to work with and it's up to him to look past your 
>> rude behavior and continue to help you.
> <off-topic>
> The difference is that I really don't care if people top-post,
> bottom-post, or respond in-line.  I work with whatever I'm presented
> with.
> I personally use all 3 methods depending upon the context is and what
> mailing list rules allow/permit.  But it varies per list, and some lists
> have zealots that absolutely despise top-posting (even if the list
> permits it).
> I fully acknowledge that the FreeBSD lists advocate and insist upon
> in-line or bottom-post replies, and I honour that -- as should George.
> But let's be reasonable: there's a problem at hand that George is
> needing help with.  The last thing a person under duress (re: in a
> situation like this) needs is to be lectured about "not confirming to
> mailing list style".  I say this knowing that conforming to said list
> style is important, however.

The guy has, basically, told Chris to fuck off until he has something
else to add other than "if I were you, I'd check your card, that's the
next logical step".

Like, totally biting the hand that feeds really...

That the guy failed the most basic of social skill by not bothering to
say "hi guys" or "hi list" or "hi everyone" when posting, that I would

But replying in this manner to someone that actually offered a valid
suggestion ?

I've become unwilling to spend time trying to figure his problem out, I
don't even want to lose time *reading* his emails at this point.

He's lucky you're far more forgiving.

That's my last mail on the matter, don't wanna generate noise for sub'ers.

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