ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?!

[Gary Kline]

On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 03:41:04PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Hans Lambermont wrote:
> 
> >Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> >
> >>Stable is a misnomer that harms FreeBSD somewhat.
> >
> >I agree.
> >
> >>A promoter of FreeBSD I know has long encouraged people to upgrade
> >>from release to stable. Some don't & won't realise Stable is Not
> >>necessarily Stable, & may get burnt.  Much of the world speaks English
> >>only as a 2nd language.  They won't benefit from the double trouble of
> >>foreign + weird BSD geek speak:  "Stable isn't Stable ?  Yes or No !"
> >>"It's stable, but it's OK to crash ?  - I'll go Linux !"
> >>
> >>Imagine a boat labelled Stable: It sinks. The designers claim: "Tough!
> >>We left the Application Interface  (routes to bars & toilets) stable,
> >>but changed other stuff.   Hey ! Stable never meant Stable !
> >>

	You've got a good point.  Wouldn't be be best to merge 
	the mythical last-bug from x-BETA+ into x and have release-x
	be the (abs) most stable *for that release*?

	I have generally run -STABLE ((now/then -RELEASE)); it is to
	the developers' credit [[all get 5 stars from here!]] that 
	-STABLE has run so flawlessly until now.  ---Yeah, I  am
	speaking only for myself; what else :-).


> 
> Or rename it what it is:
> 
> 6.x-BETA
> 
> Where x == the next -RELEASE ...
> 
> But, I'm just curious here ... for all of the talk going around about this 
> whole issue, how many ppl have truly ever been bitten by an unstable 
> -STABLE?  And for those that have, how long did it take to get help from a 
> developer to get it fixed?


	Indeed.  This snafu didn't bite me because I was at 5.4... and
	right, hat's off and cheers for Pawel Dawidek.  Everyone shouldbe
	as consciencious --it'd be a vastly better world (.) 

	gary

> 
> In the case that started this thread, it seems to be that the developer 
> fixed his mistake fairly quickly, which is what one would expect ... it 
> shouldn't be so much that he *broke* -STABLE (shit happens, do you want 
> your money back?), but it should be 'was he around to reverse his mistake 
> in a reasonable amount of time?' ... ?
> 

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