freebsd-stable Digest, Vol 101, Issue 8

Penerdzhy R.V. prv0 at yandex.ru
Thu Mar 3 08:17:01 GMT 2005


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fsrfo> Today's Topics:

fsrfo>    1. Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for FreebBSD
fsrfo>       4.10 (Artem Kuchin)
fsrfo>    2. Re: Can FreeBSD be installed on DellPowerEdge2800 ? (Art Mason)
fsrfo>    3. 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) (Thomas Krause)
fsrfo>    4. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) (Scot Hetzel)
fsrfo>    5. Re: "ioctl DIOCSMBR: Operation not permitted" from "boot0cfg
fsrfo>       -s 1" (Doug Ambrisko)
fsrfo>    6. Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5 (M. Warner Losh)
fsrfo>    7. Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4 (M. Warner Losh)
fsrfo>    8. Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4 (M. Warner Losh)
fsrfo>    9. Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5 (Ruslan Ermilov)
fsrfo>   10. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) (Colin Percival)
fsrfo>   11. Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo>       (Freddie Cash)
fsrfo>   12. ueagle(4) driver merging (Mateusz J?drasik)
fsrfo>   13. Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo>       (Peter Jeremy)
fsrfo>   14. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Brian Behlendorf)
fsrfo>   15. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)  (Kevin Oberman)
fsrfo>   16. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)  (Kevin Oberman)
fsrfo>   17. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Daniel Eischen)
fsrfo>   18. Re: ueagle(4) driver merging (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>   19. Re: ueagle(4) driver merging (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>   20. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Brian Behlendorf)
fsrfo>   21. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Daniel Eischen)
fsrfo>   22. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Pete French)
fsrfo>   23. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Eric Schuele)
fsrfo>   24. Dual booting with Windows XP (Didier Caamano)
fsrfo>   25. 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted) (Edwin Brown)
fsrfo>   26. Re: Crash when PREEMPTION enabled (Kris Kennaway)
fsrfo>   27. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>       (Michael C. Shultz)
fsrfo>   28. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>       (Edwin Brown)
fsrfo>   29. ndis problem with stable kernel source (Nicholas Basila)
fsrfo>   30. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>       (Edwin Brown)
fsrfo>   31. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>       (Michael C. Shultz)
fsrfo>   32.   Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>       FreebBSD 4.10 (pete wright)
fsrfo>   33. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>   34. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>   35. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Nicholas Basila)
fsrfo>   36. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (pcasidy at casidy.com)
fsrfo>   37. -PRErelease and ACPI: no PRT entry for 0.1.INTA (Emanuel Strobl)
fsrfo>   38. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>   39. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Nicholas Basila)


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fsrfo> Message: 1
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:27:07 +0300
fsrfo> From: "Artem Kuchin" <matrix at itlegion.ru>
fsrfo> Subject: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for FreebBSD
fsrfo>         4.10
fsrfo> To: "FreeBSD Stable" <freebsd-stable at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <024601c51f33$eda69e40$0c00a8c0 at artem>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain;       format=flowed;  charset="ISO-8859-1";
fsrfo>         reply-type=original

fsrfo> Can anybody recommend cheap IDE mirroring PCI (2.0, not 2.1 or 2.2)
fsrfo> controller with just 2 IDE ports which works fine with FreeBSD 4.10 ?

fsrfo> It is to be installed on a very old motherboard (1998) and two 40GB IDE
fsrfo> driver (more or less modern ones, at least not used ones for  sure).

fsrfo> --
fsrfo> Regards,
fsrfo> Artem Kuchin
fsrfo> IT Legion Ltd.
fsrfo> Moscow, Russia
fsrfo> www.itlegion.ru
fsrfo> matrix at itlegion.ru
fsrfo> +7 095 232-0338



fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 2
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:25:40 -0600
fsrfo> From: Art Mason <amason at rackspace.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be installed on DellPowerEdge2800 ?
fsrfo> To: Vinny Abello <vinny at tellurian.com>
fsrfo> Cc: Kipp Holger <h.kipp at eurowings.com>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <4225CCE4.3080304 at rackspace.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo> Yeah, I cam across that on some mailing list archives, but saw some
fsrfo> additional references that this can cause issues with the amr driver.
fsrfo> Have you experienced any instability issues with the amr driver and PAE
fsrfo> enabled?  If not, then I'll give this a shot on one of our lab boxes for
fsrfo> testing.  Thanks for the suggestion, BTW.

fsrfo> --

fsrfo> Art Mason
fsrfo> Technical Support - Team F
fsrfo> Rackspace Managed Hosting
fsrfo> (800) 961-4454 ext. 4290
fsrfo> amason at rackspace.com


fsrfo> Vinny Abello wrote:
>> FYI, the architecture of the 2850 (assuming it is similar to your 2800)
>> requires that you enable PAE support in your kernel of whatever OS you
>> run to address the full 4GB of RAM. This is due in some part because of
>> the memory mapping that was done for the PCI express bus and/or onboard
>> Perc controller (per Dell tech support). We've run into this with all of
>> our 2850's with various OS's and enabling PAE (per Dell's advice) fixes it.
>> 
>> At 05:50 PM 3/1/2005, Art Mason wrote:
>> 
>>> Indeed, just installed on a customer's server last night, and I build
>>> SMP support into the GENERIC kernel this morning.  Only issues I 
>>> encountered has to do w/ recognizing the full 4GB of RAM, but this
>>> apparently has some compatibility issues w/ the amr driver.
>>> As per Holger's comments about disabling USB in BIOS, this is a good
>>> suggestion, since the DRAC apparently causes some IRQ issues w/ the
>>> PS/2 keyboard controller, or something along those lines.  Regardless,
>>> these 2850 boxes are stupid fast, and I'm looking forward to 
>>> benchmarking 5.3 on them.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Art Mason
>>> Technical Support - Team F
>>> Rackspace Managed Hosting
>>> (800) 961-4454 ext. 4290
>>> amason at rackspace.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Kipp Holger wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue 01.03.2005 17:49, lhmwzy wrote:
>>>> Please reply to hk at alogis dot com. This is not my native
>>>> account.
>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Can FreeBSD be installed on DellPowerEdge2800 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>> Anybody did this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>> Any help is appreciateed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Boot from FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-CD and install. No problems
>>>> so far. You might want to disable USB within BIOS, though,
>>>> because they seem to be shared with other critical devices
>>>> (nics and raidcontroller). But I don't use USB anyway.
>>>> Then you might want to upgrade to 5-STABLE.
>>>> This is on Dell PowerEdge 2800 with 2GB ECC RAM,
>>>> 4 x 36GB SCSI and amrd-Controller (PERC-4-something).
>>>> Binary copy of SAP 4.6C and Oracle 8 (from a working
>>>> installation on FreeBSD 4.x) works nearly without changes
>>>> (using emulators/linux_base-suse-9.1 and one additional
>>>> rpm (some compatibility-thing)).
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Holger Kipp
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Vinny Abello
>> Network Engineer
>> Server Management
>> vinny at tellurian.com
>> (973)300-9211 x 125
>> (973)940-6125 (Direct)
>> PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0  E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A
>> 
>> Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection
>> http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN
>> 
>> "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear"
>> -- Mark Twain
>> 
>> 
>> 

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 3
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:07:04 +0100 (CET)
fsrfo> From: "Thomas Krause" <freebsd-stable at chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo> Subject: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID:
fsrfo> <2481.212.78.101.51.1109776024.squirrel at mta.webmatic.de>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

fsrfo> Hello,
fsrfo> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:

fsrfo> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
fsrfo> root   407  0.0  0.7  2944 1752  ??  Ss    3:54PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
fsrfo> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
fsrfo> root   417  0.0  0.7  2944 1776  ??  S     3:54PM   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
fsrfo> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift

fsrfo> gate:/ # ntpq
ntpq>> peers
fsrfo> No association ID's returned

fsrfo> After restarting, I've one daemon and all is running fine:

fsrfo> gate:/ # /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart
fsrfo> Stopping ntpd.
fsrfo> Starting ntpd.

fsrfo> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
fsrfo> root   566  0.0  0.7  2944 1784  ??  Ss    4:04PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
fsrfo> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift

fsrfo> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.

fsrfo> Kind regards,
fsrfo> Thomas.


fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 4
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:53:59 -0600
fsrfo> From: Scot Hetzel <swhetzel at gmail.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)
fsrfo> To: Thomas Krause <freebsd-stable at chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <790a9fff05030207536d59cb17 at mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:07:04 +0100 (CET), Thomas Krause
fsrfo> <freebsd-stable at chef-ingenieur.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>> 
>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>> root   407  0.0  0.7  2944 1752  ??  Ss    3:54PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>> root   417  0.0  0.7  2944 1776  ??  S     3:54PM   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>> 
>> gate:/ # ntpq
>> ntpq> peers
>> No association ID's returned
>> 
>> After restarting, I've one daemon and all is running fine:
>> 
>> gate:/ # /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart
>> Stopping ntpd.
>> Starting ntpd.
>> 
>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>> root   566  0.0  0.7  2944 1784  ??  Ss    4:04PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>> 
>> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.
>> 
fsrfo> It could be that you have 2 scripts that are starting ntpd, check your
fsrfo> rc.d directories:

fsrfo> grep ntp /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*

fsrfo> Scot

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 5
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 08:09:22 -0800 (PST)
fsrfo> From: Doug Ambrisko <ambrisko at ambrisko.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: "ioctl DIOCSMBR: Operation not permitted" from "boot0cfg
fsrfo>         -s 1"
fsrfo> To: David Wolfskill <david at catwhisker.org>
fsrfo> Cc: stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <200503021609.j22G9MN3041308 at ambrisko.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> David Wolfskill writes:
fsrfo> | freebeast(5.4-P)[1] sudo boot0cfg -s 1 -v ad0
fsrfo> | Password:
fsrfo> | boot0cfg: /dev/ad0: ioctl DIOCSMBR: Operation not permitted
fsrfo> | freebeast(5.4-P)[2] 

fsrfo> You might try:
fsrfo>         sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16

fsrfo> Doug A.

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 6
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:13:22 -0700 (MST)
fsrfo> From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp at bsdimp.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5
fsrfo> To: veldy at veldy.net
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302.091322.112684861.imp at bsdimp.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo> In message: <421DE027.70204 at veldy.net>
fsrfo>             "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy at veldy.net> writes:
fsrfo> : Right away ... first thing!
fsrfo> : 
fsrfo> :
fsrfo> --------------------------------------------------------------
:  >>>> Installing everything
fsrfo> :
fsrfo> --------------------------------------------------------------
fsrfo> : cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install
: ===>> share/info
fsrfo> : install -o root -g wheel -m 444  dir-tmpl /usr/share/info/dir
: ===>> include
fsrfo> : creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh
fsrfo> : touch: not found

fsrfo> You have one of the canonical problems:

fsrfo> (1) Time skew between building machine and installing machine
fsrfo> (2) The path to the sources isn't exactly identical, in its canonical
fsrfo>     form, between building machine and installing machine
fsrfo> (3) MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is different between building and installing.

fsrfo> Warner

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 7
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:14:15 -0700 (MST)
fsrfo> From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp at bsdimp.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4
fsrfo> To: sirmoo at cowbert.2y.net
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302.091415.101560664.imp at bsdimp.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo> In message: <20050224145622.GE261 at cowbert.2y.net>
fsrfo>             "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo at cowbert.2y.net> writes:
fsrfo> : Is there a way to build kernel modules by themselves without having to
fsrfo> : build the entire kernel? I am adding umass support to a 4.x machine but
fsrfo> : I don't want to build the entire kernel. I already have scbus, but I need
fsrfo> : da and of course, umass.

fsrfo> cd src/sys/modules/umass ; make all install clean

fsrfo> This assumes that the sources match what's on the system.

fsrfo> Warner

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 8
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:15:16 -0700 (MST)
fsrfo> From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp at bsdimp.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4
fsrfo> To: sirmoo at cowbert.2y.net
fsrfo> Cc: swhetzel at gmail.com
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302.091516.51358208.imp at bsdimp.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo> In message: <20050224161305.GG261 at cowbert.2y.net>
fsrfo>             "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo at cowbert.2y.net> writes:
fsrfo> : On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Scot Hetzel wrote:
: >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:56:22 -0500, Peter C. Lai
: >> <sirmoo at cowbert.2y.net> wrote:
: >> > Is there a way to build kernel modules by themselves without having to
: >> > build the entire kernel? I am adding umass support to a 4.x machine but
: >> > I don't want to build the entire kernel. I already have scbus, but I need
: >> > da and of course, umass.
: >> > 
: >>  
: >> Yes you can build modules seperately from a kernel build
: >> 
: >> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/umass
: >> make obj
: >> make
: >> make install
: >> 
: >> Scot
fsrfo> : 
fsrfo> : ok. what about da? i don't have that in my kernel, even though i have scbus.
fsrfo> : I think i'm just going to recompile the entire kernel anyway; I was just
fsrfo> : trying to not have to back-cvs /usr/src to patch the current one I have
fsrfo> : installed. (the more basic problem is i really should be keeping multiple
fsrfo> : versions of /usr/src around for different versions on different machines,
fsrfo> : but that is a separate problem).

fsrfo> modules/cam is what you want.  Hmmm, looks like you have part of it in
fsrfo> your kernel already, so you'll not be able to do what you want.

fsrfo> Warner

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 9
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:56:45 +0200
fsrfo> From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru at FreeBSD.org>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5
fsrfo> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp at bsdimp.com>
fsrfo> Cc: veldy at veldy.net
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302165645.GB49216 at ip.net.ua>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

fsrfo> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 09:13:22AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>> In message: <421DE027.70204 at veldy.net>
>>             "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy at veldy.net> writes:
>> : Right away ... first thing!
>> : 
>> : --------------------------------------------------------------
>> :  >>> Installing everything
>> : --------------------------------------------------------------
>> : cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install
>> : ===> share/info
>> : install -o root -g wheel -m 444  dir-tmpl /usr/share/info/dir
>> : ===> include
>> : creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh
>> : touch: not found
>> 
>> You have one of the canonical problems:
>> 
>> (1) Time skew between building machine and installing machine
>> (2) The path to the sources isn't exactly identical, in its canonical
>>     form, between building machine and installing machine
>> (3) MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is different between building and installing.
>> 
fsrfo> Besides, for NFS installs (by mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj and doing
fsrfo> install) to work at all, the following conditions all must be met:

fsrfo> 1)  Architecture on both machines should be the same,
fsrfo> 2)  CPUs on both machines should be compatible [*],
fsrfo> 3)  FreeBSD versions should be IDENTICAL,
fsrfo> 4)  The contents of /etc/make.conf should be compatible.

fsrfo> [*] Or the world on the build machine should be built with CFLAGS
fsrfo> compatible with the CPU on the install machine.


fsrfo> Cheers,
fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Ruslan Ermilov
fsrfo> ru at FreeBSD.org
fsrfo> FreeBSD committer
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fsrfo> Message: 10
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 17:15:18 +0000
fsrfo> From: Colin Percival <cperciva at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)
fsrfo> To: Thomas Krause <freebsd-stable at chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <4225F4A6.8010200 at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1

fsrfo> Thomas Krause wrote:
>> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>> [...]
>> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.

fsrfo> 1. You have some host names in ntp.conf which need to be resolved, and
fsrfo> 2. At the time ntpd starts, the resolver isn't running.

fsrfo> For some reason, ntpd makes one attempt to look up names in DNS and then
fsrfo> goes into an infinite loop.

fsrfo> Colin Percival

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 11
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:20:42 -0800
fsrfo> From: Freddie Cash <fcash-ml at sd73.bc.ca>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <200503020920.43155.fcash-ml at sd73.bc.ca>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

fsrfo> On March 2, 2005 02:46 am, Rob wrote:
>> In /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is the list of supported
>> sound devices. I get confused by the pressence and
>> absence of quotes here. Are these quotes only
>> decoration, or really needed. For example:

>> device          "snd_ad1816"
>> device          snd_cmi

>> If they are needed, it confuses me why one sound
>> device needs quotes, and another doesn't?

fsrfo> You have to put quotes around any device names with numbers in them.  If
fsrfo> you don't, the kernel config will error out.

>> How does that affect the use of loading them in
>> /boot/loader.conf? How about following two:

fsrfo> It doesn't affect loader.conf.  You only put quotes around the value of
fsrfo> the variable ("YES" or "NO") not around the variable names.

>> snd_ad1816_load="YES"
>> snd_cmi_load="YES"

>> Is that OK?

fsrfo> Yes.

fsrfo> However, if you add the devices to the kernel config file, you don't
fsrfo> need to add them to loader.conf.  loader.conf is used to load kernel
fsrfo> modules.  You need to decide whether to compile all devices into the
fsrfo> kernel, or load some as kernel modules.

fsrfo> Personally, I like to put devices that won't change (like USB, ATA, SMB,
fsrfo> etc) into the kernel config file.  And load devices that will change
fsrfo> (like NICs, soundcards, etc) as modules via loader.conf.  Saves time
fsrfo> and effort when I decide to swap out NICs and test soundcards and
fsrfo> similar.

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Freddie Cash, CCNT CCLP        Helpdesk / Network Support Tech.
fsrfo> School District 73             (250) 377-HELP [377-4357]
fsrfo> fcash-ml at sd73.bc.ca

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 12
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 18:55:23 +0100
fsrfo> From: Mateusz J?drasik<imachine at toya.net.pl>
fsrfo> Subject: ueagle(4) driver merging
fsrfo> To: stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <4225FE0B.1000604 at toya.net.pl>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed

fsrfo> Hi,

fsrfo> I wonder how is the FreeBSD team looking on the driver ueagle written by
fsrfo> one Damien Bergamini. It is a ADSL modem driver which connects using
fsrfo> USB, a quite popular solution in Poland, and France as well, aparently.

fsrfo> Is the idea of FreeBSD to merge such driver as a hack to the umodem
fsrfo> code, or to stay in tune with Damien's solution and merge the whole driver?

fsrfo> I would really like to see such a driver supported inside of the FreeBSD
fsrfo> system itself since it would make me feel much more comfortable using a
fsrfo> somewhat FreeBSD oficially supported code than third party patching.

fsrfo> Here follows some more information regarding the project:

fsrfo> http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ueagle/index.html

fsrfo> Cheers,

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Mateusz Jкdrasik <imachine at toya.net.pl>

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 13
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:51:36 +1100
fsrfo> From: Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy at optushome.com.au>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo> To: Rob <spamrefuse at yahoo.com>
fsrfo> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302185136.GA2302 at cirb503493.alcatel.com.au>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo> On Wed, 2005-Mar-02 02:46:41 -0800, Rob wrote:
>>In /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is the list of supported
>>sound devices. I get confused by the pressence and
>>absence of quotes here. Are these quotes only
>>decoration, or really needed. For example:
>>
>>device          "snd_ad1816"
>>device          snd_cmi
>>
>>If they are needed, it confuses me why one sound
>>device needs quotes, and another doesn't?

fsrfo> For hysterical raisins, config(8) parses bareword arguments to "device" as
fsrfo> <perl>
fsrfo>         ($device_name, $device_instance) = /([a-zA-Z_]+)([0-9]*)/;
fsrfo> </perl>

fsrfo> The double quotes force the first entry to be treated as a device
fsrfo> "snd_ad1816", rather than the 1817th instance of "snd_ad".

>>How does that affect the use of loading them in
>>/boot/loader.conf? How about following two:
>>
>>snd_ad1816_load="YES"
>>snd_cmi_load="YES"
>>
>>Is that OK?

fsrfo> Yes.  The loader has a different parsing algorithm:
fsrfo> ${device_name}_load="{YES,NO}"
fsrfo> and
fsrfo> hint.$device_name.$device_instance.flag="VALUE"

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Peter Jeremy

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 14
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:06:27 -0800 (PST)
fsrfo> From: Brian Behlendorf <brian at collab.net>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo> To: Ruben van Staveren <ruben at verweg.com>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302150553.N84651 at paz.hyperreal.org>
fsrfo> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 12:23:42AM +0200, Ege Mukan wrote:
>>
>>> Nowavadays whenever I want to surf on websites which contains flash
>>> things my firefox or mozilla shuts itself.
>>>
>>> Did you ever encounter this problem. And if you'd how did you eliminate ???
>>
>> Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>>
>> (as in
>>
>> Section "Extensions"
>>        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>> EndSection
>>
>> )
>>
>> Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #! /bin/sh
>>
>> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1

fsrfo> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
fsrfo> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.

fsrfo>         Brian


fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 15
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:07:55 -0800
fsrfo> From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman at es.net>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) 
fsrfo> To: "Thomas Krause" <freebsd-stable at chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302230755.7A0F05D07 at ptavv.es.net>

>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:07:04 +0100 (CET)
>> From: "Thomas Krause" <freebsd-stable at chef-ingenieur.de>
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
>> 
>> Hello,
>> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>> 
>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>> root   407  0.0  0.7  2944 1752  ??  Ss    3:54PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>> root   417  0.0  0.7  2944 1776  ??  S     3:54PM   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>> 
>> gate:/ # ntpq
>> ntpq> peers
>> No association ID's returned
>> 
>> After restarting, I've one daemon and all is running fine:
>> 
>> gate:/ # /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart
>> Stopping ntpd.
>> Starting ntpd.
>> 
>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>> root   566  0.0  0.7  2944 1784  ??  Ss    4:04PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>> 
>> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.

fsrfo> Either you have two commands to start ntpd in /etc/rc.d or (more likely)
fsrfo> the parent process is never exiting.  When ntpd starts, it forks a child
fsrfo> process (the daemon) and exits. I have seen cases where the parent
fsrfo> process never exits because the child never properly starts.

fsrfo> That said, I have never seen this happen on a FreeBSD system, so it may
fsrfo> be that you are starting it twice. But this seems a bit unlikely as the
fsrfo> second daemon should exit immediately because the network socket is
fsrfo> already in use. But it's possible that they are stating so close
fsrfo> together that a race condition is locking things up. (Just speculation.)
fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
fsrfo> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
fsrfo> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
fsrfo> E-mail: oberman at es.net                  Phone: +1 510 486-8634

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 16
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:11:23 -0800
fsrfo> From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman at es.net>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) 
fsrfo> To: Colin Percival <cperciva at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302231123.D14555D07 at ptavv.es.net>

>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 17:15:18 +0000
>> From: Colin Percival <cperciva at freebsd.org>
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
>> 
>> Thomas Krause wrote:
>> > when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>> > [...]
>> > Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.
>> 
>> 1. You have some host names in ntp.conf which need to be resolved, and
>> 2. At the time ntpd starts, the resolver isn't running.
>> 
>> For some reason, ntpd makes one attempt to look up names in DNS and then
>> goes into an infinite loop.

fsrfo> Good idea. Yes, the DNS resolution in ntpd is really, really stupid. I
fsrfo> always specify addresses in ntp.conf for this reason and the fact that
fsrfo> it there are multiple addresses only the first returned will be
fsrfo> tried. It never fails over if that one is dead. (And, should an IPv6
fsrfo> address be available on a system that does not have IPv6
fsrfo> connectivity...).
fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
fsrfo> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
fsrfo> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
fsrfo> E-mail: oberman at es.net                  Phone: +1 510 486-8634

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 17
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:56:36 -0500 (EST)
fsrfo> From: Daniel Eischen <deischen at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian at collab.net>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID:
fsrfo> <Pine.GSO.4.43.0503021855350.28715-100000 at sea.ntplx.net>
fsrfo> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:

>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>> >
>> > Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>> >
>> > (as in
>> >
>> > Section "Extensions"
>> >        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>> > EndSection
>> >
>> > )
>> >
>> > Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #! /bin/sh
>> >
>> > export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
>>
>> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
>> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.

fsrfo> Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
fsrfo> out of it?

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> DE


fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 18
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:43:43 +1030
fsrfo> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: ueagle(4) driver merging
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Cc: stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <200503031043.52675.doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"

fsrfo> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:25, Mateusz Jкdrasik wrote:
>> Is the idea of FreeBSD to merge such driver as a hack to the umodem
>> code, or to stay in tune with Damien's solution and merge the whole driver?

fsrfo> umodem is for serial modems not ADSL. I believe ADSL modems tend to send
fsrfo> either ATM or ethernet frames whereas umodem deals with RS232 like devices.

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo> Message: 19
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:43:43 +1030
fsrfo> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: ueagle(4) driver merging
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Cc: stable at freebsd.org
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fsrfo> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:25, Mateusz Jкdrasik wrote:
>> Is the idea of FreeBSD to merge such driver as a hack to the umodem
>> code, or to stay in tune with Damien's solution and merge the whole driver?

fsrfo> umodem is for serial modems not ADSL. I believe ADSL modems tend to send
fsrfo> either ATM or ethernet frames whereas umodem deals with RS232 like devices.

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 20
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:16:22 -0800 (PST)
fsrfo> From: Brian Behlendorf <brian at hyperreal.org>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050302161410.X84651 at paz.hyperreal.org>
fsrfo> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>>>>
>>>> (as in
>>>>
>>>> Section "Extensions"
>>>>        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>>>> EndSection
>>>>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #! /bin/sh
>>>>
>>>> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
>>>
>>> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
>>> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.
>>
>> Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
>> out of it?

fsrfo> Because, as I said earlier this thread:

fsrfo>    I do try it every couple of weeks to see if it works, but the best it
fsrfo>    gets is two-three web sites and then the seg fault. I realize until I
fsrfo>    sit down with a stack trace I haven't earned the right to complain, so I
fsrfo>    haven't yet, figuring it'll be important enough someday to someone
fsrfo>    clueful enough.  Or, Macromedia will some day lighten up and let Mozilla
fsrfo>    include it as part of the web browser by default.  Or something.

fsrfo> ...and that I've got nowhere near the chops to do anything useful with a
fsrfo> stack trace that I'm sure others do.  I thought I'd pipe up in response to
fsrfo> Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
fsrfo> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?

fsrfo>         Brian


fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 21
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:31:36 -0500 (EST)
fsrfo> From: Daniel Eischen <deischen at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian at hyperreal.org>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID:
fsrfo> <Pine.GSO.4.43.0503021926300.28715-100000 at sea.ntplx.net>
fsrfo> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:

>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>> >
>> > Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
>> > out of it?
>>
>> Because, as I said earlier this thread:
>>
>>    I do try it every couple of weeks to see if it works, but the best it
>>    gets is two-three web sites and then the seg fault. I realize until I
>>    sit down with a stack trace I haven't earned the right to complain, so I
>>    haven't yet, figuring it'll be important enough someday to someone
>>    clueful enough.  Or, Macromedia will some day lighten up and let Mozilla
>>    include it as part of the web browser by default.  Or something.
>>
>> ...and that I've got nowhere near the chops to do anything useful with a
>> stack trace that I'm sure others do.  I thought I'd pipe up in response to
>> Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
>> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?

fsrfo> Is it that hard to type 'firefox -g', alias firefox="firefox -g", or
fsrfo> whatever, and use it that way for a few days to see if you can
fsrfo> get a trace?  I'm just wondering if it has the same problem
fsrfo> as linuxpluginwrapper, or bad assumptions about mutexes
fsrfo> being recursive or unlocking one you don't own.

fsrfo> Most folks I know use the linuxpluginwrapper so we don't have
fsrfo> any experience with the native flash player.  I think I recall
fsrfo> trying it and it not working, hence the use of linuxpluginwrapper.

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> DE


fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 22
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:54:23 +0000
fsrfo> From: Pete French <petefrench at ticketswitch.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo> To: brian at hyperreal.org, freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <E1D6ebf-000Dcm-Ut at dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk>

>> Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
>> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?

fsrfo> No, it doesnt work for me either - but I dont care enough about
fsrfo> websites with mflash to bother looking into it.

fsrfo> -pcf.

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 23
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:22:58 -0600
fsrfo> From: Eric Schuele <e.schuele at computer.org>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian at hyperreal.org>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <42269122.7000505 at computer.org>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo> Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>>>>>
>>>>> (as in
>>>>>
>>>>> Section "Extensions"
>>>>>        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>
>>>>> )
>>>>>
>>>>> Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #!
>>>>> /bin/sh
>>>>>
>>>>> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
>>>> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
>>> out of it?
>> 
>> 
>> Because, as I said earlier this thread:
>> 
>>   I do try it every couple of weeks to see if it works, but the best it
>>   gets is two-three web sites and then the seg fault. I realize until I
>>   sit down with a stack trace I haven't earned the right to complain, so I
>>   haven't yet, figuring it'll be important enough someday to someone
>>   clueful enough.  Or, Macromedia will some day lighten up and let Mozilla
>>   include it as part of the web browser by default.  Or something.
>> 
>> ...and that I've got nowhere near the chops to do anything useful with a
>> stack trace that I'm sure others do.  I thought I'd pipe up in response
>> to Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
>> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?
>> 

fsrfo> Fails for me too.  On all flash sites near as I can tell.

fsrfo> -Eric

>>     Brian
>> 
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fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Regards,
fsrfo> Eric

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 24
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:40:28 -0700
fsrfo> From: Didier Caamano <nemesisdivina at gennux.ca>
fsrfo> Subject: Dual booting with Windows XP
fsrfo> To: FreeBSD Mailing List <stable at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <4226953C.7080107 at gennux.ca>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo> Hello everyone:

fsrfo> This might sound rather foolish, but I need some assistance on how to
fsrfo> dual boot FBSD 5.3 with WinXP.

fsrfo> I have to Hard Drives, Windows is in the first drive, and I want to
fsrfo> install FBSD on the second. No in the installation process I choose to
fsrfo> create the partitions to the second Hard Drive, then it ask me if I want
fsrfo> to install the boot manager, to which I answer yes, then it ask me where
fsrfo> to install it, and I choose to the First Hard drive, is that ok? well,
fsrfo> what happens is that after I choose the installer send me to disklabel
fsrfo> to slice the Hard drive, but it show the First hard drive.

fsrfo> am I making any sense at all? I thought that installing the boot manager
fsrfo> was going to be a straigh forward process, is there anything wrong with
fsrfo> what I am experiencing? Any help will be appreciated.

fsrfo> Good night everyone

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 25
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 23:48:19 -0500
fsrfo> From: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown at gmail.com>
fsrfo> Subject: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <8b6eae960503022048b90c457 at mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in make.conf

fsrfo> CPUTYPE=i686
fsrfo> CFLAGS=-02 -pipe

fsrfo> It was built on a p4. 

fsrfo> I went to install this on my trusty firewall machine and I get the following
fsrfo> error: 
fsrfo> -----BEGIN ERROR-----
fsrfo> CD Loader 1.2

fsrfo> Building the boot loader arguments
fsrfo> Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
fsrfo> Relocating the loader and the BTX
fsrfo> Starting the BTX loader

fsrfo> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01

fsrfo> int=0000000d  err=000000c0  efl=00010a47  eip=00015528
fsrfo> eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=ffffffff edx=00094fa0
fsrfo> esi=01164e7f  edi=c8b66ff7  ebp=00093ff8  esp=7c24ddf4
fsrfo> cs=002b  ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
fsrfo> cs:eip=9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
fsrfo>            9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
fsrfo> ss:esp=ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
fsrfo>             ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
fsrfo> BTX halted 
fsrfo> -----END ERROR-----
fsrfo> Also, the 5.3.isos downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org fail to boot as well.

fsrfo> It's not hardware related as I'm able to pop in a OpenBSD3.6 snapshot
fsrfo> and boot from that.

fsrfo> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to try the floppies next.

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 26
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:56:57 -0800
fsrfo> From: Kris Kennaway <kris at obsecurity.org>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: Crash when PREEMPTION enabled
fsrfo> To: Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy at optushome.com.au>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050303045657.GA6139 at xor.obsecurity.org>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

fsrfo> On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 07:13:04PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>> I have tried enabling PREEMPTION on 5.3-RELEASE-p5 whilst it ran OK
>> for a few hours, it crashed overnight whilst doing a "make index" in
>> /usr/ports.  I've tried repeating "make index" and it worked.  I have
>> a coredump of the crash and have been doing some poking around.

fsrfo> I've just turned on PREEMPTION on the 12-CPU sparc64 machine running
fsrfo> RELENG_5 that I've been playing with, and it quickly resets and
fsrfo> reboots under load (buildworld -j12).  This happens with either ULE or
fsrfo> 4BSD, although ULE without PREEMPTION seems to work fine (and perform
fsrfo> much better than 4BSD, as expected).

fsrfo> It looks like PREEMPTION is indeed still broken in RELENG_5 - I guess
fsrfo> my workloads aren't enough to trigger this on other machines :-(

fsrfo> Kris
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fsrfo> Message: 27
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:00:22 -0800
fsrfo> From: "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83 at verizon.net>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
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fsrfo> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 08:48 pm, Edwin Brown wrote:
>> I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in
>> make.conf
>>
>> CPUTYPE=i686
>> CFLAGS=-02 -pipe
>>
>> It was built on a p4.

fsrfo> CFLAGS should be -O2 not -02 and you really may want to concider just -O

fsrfo> -Mike

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 28
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 00:09:11 -0500
fsrfo> From: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown at gmail.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo> To: "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83 at verizon.net>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <8b6eae960503022109d8561e2 at mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> I didn't cut and paste that. I had to copy everything by hand. It's
fsrfo> correct in the make.conf.

fsrfo> Best, 

fsrfo> Edwin



fsrfo> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:00:22 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
fsrfo> <reso3w83 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 08:48 pm, Edwin Brown wrote:
>> > I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in
>> > make.conf
>> >
>> > CPUTYPE=i686
>> > CFLAGS=-02 -pipe
>> >
>> > It was built on a p4.
>> 
>> CFLAGS should be -O2 not -02 and you really may want to concider just -O
>> 
>> -Mike
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fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 29
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:15:28 -0500
fsrfo> From: Nicholas Basila <mlists at northglobe.com>
fsrfo> Subject: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo> To: stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <42269D70.5090806 at northglobe.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
fsrfo> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on 
fsrfo> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
fsrfo> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
fsrfo> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
fsrfo> failure is after the make depend... during the make):

fsrfo> linking kernel
fsrfo> if_ndis_pccard.o(.text+0xc): In function `ndis_probe_pccard':
fsrfo> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
fsrfo> if_ndis_pci.o(.text+0x14): In function `ndis_probe_pci':
fsrfo> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
fsrfo> *** Error code 1

fsrfo> Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/HP09.


fsrfo> This card worked fine with 5.3-RELEASE. It's a Broadcom 54G wireless NIC
fsrfo> on an HP zd7140us notebook. Any thoughts?

fsrfo> Regards,

fsrfo> Nicholas



fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 30
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 00:15:03 -0500
fsrfo> From: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown at gmail.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <8b6eae960503022115363d3fde at mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> It boots OK from the floppies as a work around... 


fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 23:48:19 -0500, Edwin Brown
fsrfo> <edwin.brown at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in make.conf
>> 
>> CPUTYPE=i686
>> CFLAGS=-02 -pipe
>> 
>> It was built on a p4.
>> 
>> I went to install this on my trusty firewall machine and I get the following
>> error:
>> -----BEGIN ERROR-----
>> CD Loader 1.2
>> 
>> Building the boot loader arguments
>> Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
>> Relocating the loader and the BTX
>> Starting the BTX loader
>> 
>> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
>> 
>> int=0000000d  err=000000c0  efl=00010a47  eip=00015528
>> eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=ffffffff edx=00094fa0
>> esi=01164e7f  edi=c8b66ff7  ebp=00093ff8  esp=7c24ddf4
>> cs=002b  ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
>> cs:eip=9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
>>           9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
>> ss:esp=ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
>>            ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
>> BTX halted
>> -----END ERROR-----
>> Also, the 5.3.isos downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org fail to boot as well.
>> 
>> It's not hardware related as I'm able to pop in a OpenBSD3.6 snapshot
>> and boot from that.
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to try the floppies next.
>>

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 31
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:25:30 -0800
fsrfo> From: "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83 at verizon.net>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo> To: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown at gmail.com>, freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <200503022125.31189.reso3w83 at verizon.net>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

fsrfo> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 09:09 pm, Edwin Brown wrote:
>> I didn't cut and paste that. I had to copy everything by hand. It's
>> correct in the make.conf.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Edwin
>>

fsrfo> OK, did you try just using -O?  There is a note about that in the
fsrfo> make.conf file.

fsrfo> -Mike

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 32
fsrfo> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:50:41 -0800
fsrfo> From: pete wright <nomadlogic at gmail.com>
fsrfo> Subject:        Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>         FreebBSD 4.10
fsrfo> To: Artem Kuchin <matrix at itlegion.ru>
fsrfo> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable at freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <57d7100005030221505d8ff1b2 at mail.gmail.com>
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fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:27:07 +0300, Artem Kuchin <matrix at itlegion.ru> wrote:
>> Can anybody recommend cheap IDE mirroring PCI (2.0, not 2.1 or 2.2)
>> controller with just 2 IDE ports which works fine with FreeBSD 4.10 ?
>> 
>> It is to be installed on a very old motherboard (1998) and two 40GB IDE
>> driver (more or less modern ones, at least not used ones for  sure).

fsrfo> sorry I don't know of any really cheap one's off hand, altho I do have
fsrfo> experience with 3Ware RAID cards on 4.x.  They seemed to work well,
fsrfo> and they are less expensive than proper SCSI cards...altho slower.  If
fsrfo> cost really an issue would it be worth mirroring your disks in
fsrfo> software via VINUM?

fsrfo> -p



fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> ~~o0OO0o~~
fsrfo> Pete Wright
fsrfo> www.nycbug.org
fsrfo> NYC's *BSD User Group

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 33
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:42:33 +1030
fsrfo> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Cc: stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <200503031642.39981.doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

fsrfo> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:45, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on
>> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
>> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
>> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
>> failure is after the make depend... during the make):

fsrfo> How did you run ndiscvt? Where did you get the driver from?
fsrfo> etc..

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo> Message: 34
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:42:33 +1030
fsrfo> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Cc: stable at freebsd.org
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fsrfo> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:45, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on
>> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
>> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
>> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
>> failure is after the make depend... during the make):

fsrfo> How did you run ndiscvt? Where did you get the driver from?
fsrfo> etc..

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo> Message: 35
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 01:20:58 -0500
fsrfo> From: Nicholas Basila <mlists at northglobe.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo> To: Daniel O'Connor <doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
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fsrfo> Daniel O'Connor wrote:

>>On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:45, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>>>using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on
>>>5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
>>>rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
>>>original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
>>>failure is after the make depend... during the make):
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>How did you run ndiscvt? Where did you get the driver from?
>>etc..
>>
>>  
>>
fsrfo> Well, I've been using the official HP driver. I ran the utility like so:
fsrfo> ndiscvt -i name_of_nt_driver.inf -s name_of_nt_driver.sys -o 
fsrfo> /tmp/ndis_driver_data.h

fsrfo> I then copied it to the compile directory of my kernel. Make depend runs
fsrfo> correctly, but it crashes out during the linking phase of make. I have
fsrfo> these options at the bottom of my kernel config:

fsrfo> options NDISAPI
fsrfo> device ndis
fsrfo> device wlan

fsrfo> As I said, this worked perfectly with 5.3 and even 5-current before the
fsrfo> 5.3 release. I tried building the stable version of ndiscvt, and that
fsrfo> didn't produce a different header file. I did a cvsup two days ago, got
fsrfo> the error, and did a new cvsup tonight.




fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 36
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:30:44 +0100 (CET)
fsrfo> From: pcasidy at casidy.com
fsrfo> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo> To: mlists at northglobe.com
fsrfo> Cc: stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <20050303062137.3DFFFB86C at smtp.casidy.net>
fsrfo> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo> On  3 Mar, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on 
>> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried 
>> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my 
>> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this 
>> failure is after the make depend... during the make):
>> 
>> linking kernel
>> if_ndis_pccard.o(.text+0xc): In function `ndis_probe_pccard':
>> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
>> if_ndis_pci.o(.text+0x14): In function `ndis_probe_pci':
>> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
>> *** Error code 1
>> 
>> Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/HP09.
>> 
>> 
>> This card worked fine with 5.3-RELEASE. It's a Broadcom 54G wireless NIC
>> on an HP zd7140us notebook. Any thoughts?

fsrfo> I had exactly this problem when my ndis_driver_data.h was built with a
fsrfo> previous version of ndiscvt. You may have to update your world too.

fsrfo> Hope that helps!

fsrfo> Phil.


fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 37
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:32:36 +0100
fsrfo> From: Emanuel Strobl <emanuel.strobl at gmx.net>
fsrfo> Subject: -PRErelease and ACPI: no PRT entry for 0.1.INTA
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <200503030732.41525 at harrymail>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

fsrfo> Dear Hackers,

fsrfo> on one remote machine I see the following error (RELENG_5 from this night):

fsrfo> pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.1.INTA

fsrfo> I have only ssh access and putting "-v" in /boot.config didn't help me getting
fsrfo> a verbose dmesg.
fsrfo> Anyway, I think it's caused by a bogus BIOS but I wanted to make sure having
fsrfo> it reported.
fsrfo> Last version was RELENG_5 from Nov. 5th and I also had a ACPI error but more
fsrfo> detailed. Unfortunately I lost the output....

fsrfo> Thanks,

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fsrfo> Message: 38
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:27:46 +1030
fsrfo> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo> To: Nicholas Basila <mlists at northglobe.com>
fsrfo> Cc: freebsd-stable at freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <200503031727.52538.doconnor at gsoft.com.au>
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fsrfo> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:50, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>> Well, I've been using the official HP driver. I ran the utility like so:

fsrfo> I don't know where the official HP driver is (hint: a URL would be handy)

>> ndiscvt -i name_of_nt_driver.inf -s name_of_nt_driver.sys -o
>> /tmp/ndis_driver_data.h
>>
>> I then copied it to the compile directory of my kernel. Make depend runs
>> correctly, but it crashes out during the linking phase of make. I have
>> these options at the bottom of my kernel config:
>>
>> options NDISAPI
>> device ndis
>> device wlan

fsrfo> I would suggest building it as a module as it's much simpler (unless you're
fsrfo> booting over this interface - which is doubtful)

fsrfo> eg..
fsrfo> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis
fsrfo> cp /tmp/foo.inf /tmp/foo.sys .
fsrfo> ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h
fsrfo> make
fsrfo> make install

>> As I said, this worked perfectly with 5.3 and even 5-current before the
>> 5.3 release. I tried building the stable version of ndiscvt, and that
>> didn't produce a different header file. I did a cvsup two days ago, got
>> the error, and did a new cvsup tonight.

fsrfo> Make sure your userland and kernel are in sync - ie install world to match
fsrfo> your new kernel. You may be building against stale headers.




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