FYI, I'm rebuild world for about an hour now from a fresh cvsup, and off a clean install from the July 27 snapshot. I'll post my results as well. Hopefully all is well. BTW, I have a new box coming, anyone know of an issues running on a Netra N1 105? (440 MHz, 2 x SCSI) Cheers, Chris Flecknell SystemRage cflecknell at systemrage.org