TinyBSD Call For Testers

Igor Pokrovsky ip at doom.homeunix.org
Tue Jul 19 19:43:23 GMT 2005


On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 04:18:15PM -0300, Patrick Tracanelli wrote:
> Igor Pokrovsky wrote:
> >On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 03:17:52PM -0300, Jean Milanez Melo wrote:
> >
> >>Hello gentlemen,
> >>
> >>In the last saturday a new port has been added under sysutils/ category, 
> >>ports/sysutils/tinybsd. TinyBSD is a tool which was meant to allow an 
> >>easy way to build embedded systems based on FreeBSD. It is based on 
> >>userland copying, library dependencies check/copy and kernel build.
> >
> >
> >What's wrong with PicoBSD?
> >
> >-ip
> >
> 
> PicoBSD is architectural different.
> 
> It is a single crunched program which once loaded is kept always in 
> memory, while live systems such as TinyBSD, nanobsd, and usually live 
> CDs load to memory what it needs from the main storage device (cf card, 
> pendrive, cd, whatever). So it is different at all. After that, PicoBSD 
> worked very fine before the last releases on RELENG_4, while at RELENG_5 
> it became quite hard to build without problems. I personally enjoy 
> PicoBSD a lot, but it is not an available choice nowadays, 'cos of 
> building issues. On the other hand, Luigi has recently made a number of 
> changes which puts PicoBSD back into "yes, it builds" state, which is 
> great! But in RELENG_5 it stills not accomplishing its goal stated in 
> picobsd(8), which is:
> 
> picobsd -- floppy disk based FreeBSD system
> 
> ..."try to keep them functional and fitting in the 1.44MB floppy despite 
> the unavoidable increases in the size of the kernel and its applications"
> 
> In fact fs.picobsd has ~ 1.4MB, plus the kernel, which could take it to 
> ~3MB total size. Maybe in a 2.8 floppy it would fit today, but it is 
> somehow different from what used to be in RELENG_4.
> 
> Anyway, there is nothing wrong w/ PicoBSD. It is just different.

Thanks for answering a stupid question. I simply somehow missed the goal
of TinyBSD. Just had an association with PicoBSD.
As I'm conservative enough to use PicoBSD on RELENG_4, I never tried
it on RELENG_5. But how about building PicoBSD on RELENG_5 and burn
acquired image on a CD? With CD there should be no space problem.
Of cause in that case it's better to use TinyBSD, Live CD or whatever.
But just curious about PicoBSD thing.

-ip

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