realpath(3) et al

[Chris Odell]

  Sometimes I wonder why im on this list.... I was just throwing
something out there, before my first cup and about fifteen minutes after
awaking. I did in fact clarify this in one more additional message,
after I received this kind of garble in my inbox. 

  People like this are a waste of bandwidth....

  I'm sure ill be banned after someone reads this with some sort of
authority, so for the people that actually have some sort of sense it
has been very educational/fun.

Chris Odell
chris at redstarnetworks.net
p/f: 702.646.2830
t/f: 800.646.2830  

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Lambert [mailto:lambert at lambertfam.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:11 PM
To: Chris Odell
Subject: Re: realpath(3) et al


How many companies have 1000 FreeBSD machines?  I'm going to guess it's
less than 150, but I'd be happy to be wrong.  I guess there *might* be
1000 companies which have 150 FreeBSD machines.  Probably tens of
thousands of companies with 15 FreeBSD machines.  Good luck getting 1000
of them to donate $20.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:15:41AM -0700, Chris Odell wrote:
>  
>   Corporations - INTERNET Companies...
> 
>   If you look at the big picture, having a O.S. that has been audited 
> for issues would actually be cost effective for them. Having to patch 
> a machine that is in service causes downtime.
> 
>   Lets see -
> 
>   Each machine takes ten (10) minutes of human work to drop into
single
> user mode and install new binaries/kernels   
>  
>   The company has one thousand (1000) machines
> 
>   That comes to ten thousand (10000) minutes, broken down to hours - 
> 167 Hours
> 
>   The average admin say is making forty five (45) dollars a hour - 
> over $7000.00 - not including taxes paid by employer.
> 
>   So if one hundred fifty companies donated one thousand dollars 
> (1000) it would save them downtime, payroll, and taxes.
> 
>   Just a rough estimate and my 2 cents
> 
> 
> Chris Odell
> chris at redstarnetworks.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-security at freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-security at freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Devon H. 
> O'Dell
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:42 AM
> To: 'Brooks Davis'
> Cc: security at freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: realpath(3) et al
> 
> 
> Okay, so where do we begin with taking contributions?
> 
> Devon
> 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: owner-freebsd-security at freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > security at freebsd.org] Namens Brooks Davis
> > Verzonden: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:38 PM
> > Aan: Devon H. O'Dell
> > CC: security at freebsd.org
> > Onderwerp: Re: realpath(3) et al
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 10:24:16AM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> > > What sorts of security standards commissions are there, how much
> > > does getting "standards certified" cost, and where should we
start?
> > 
> > I think the ballpark number I heard for a minimal certification 
> > under
> > Common Criteria was $1.5m.
> > 
> > -- Brooks
> 
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