OS to replace FreeBSD
galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu
Sat Mar 20 14:41:57 UTC 2021
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office at klepp.biz> wrote:
> Anno domini 2021 Fri, 19 Mar 21:32:14 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf scripsit:
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:16:33 -0700, freebsd at johnea.net wrote:
>>> Void uses a runit init system with no systemd
>> I suspect it's not a good idea to use Linux without systemd. For
>> example, by upstream udev is part of systemd. Maintaining Linux without
>> systemd is a bottomless pit.
> Oh, you can use Devuan - wich works perfect. But I'd reverse the argument: It's not a good good idea, to run Linux with systemd. Basicly systemd is the argument to move away from Linux.
Indeed. Once [systemd related] code was aded to kernel, it was it. Kernel is polluted, and cleaning that away from kernel only adds extra bugs and problems. Even maintaining the branch of kernel stemming from pre-systemd is not as good as were it no systemd in the world at all.
But that is just extra argument to move away from Linux (at least systems that can be moved away).
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:35:21 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>>> Recompiling the kernel is *TRIVIAL* if you refuse to do it then you
>>> should not be using any Unix variant
>> I dislike this tone of voice. However, I agree that compiling the kernel
>> might be less effort, than migrating to another operating system. If you
>> would e.g. migrate to Arch Linux, you need to get used to systemd.
>> Getting used to systemd isn't pleasant. If you chose a Linux distro
>> that doesn't use systemd, you likely will experience all kinds of
>> trouble, if you want to customize your install.
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