Technological advantages over Linux

Julien Cigar julien at
Mon Mar 16 11:46:44 UTC 2020

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:02:46PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> Greg Veldman wrote:
> > 
> > The insanity of systemd is a large part of what convinced me
> > to migrate all my personal machines from GNU/Linux to FreeBSD
> > a couple of years ago.
> I've just come across two related things which may convince me to
> migrate some machines from FreeBSD to Debian.
> 1. On Debian, you can run several instances of php-fpm with different
> PHP versions in them.
> 2. On Debian, you can install and run several versions of PostgreSQL
> simultaneously thanks to the pg_createcluster/pg_lsclusters/...
> infrastructure.
> All that from standard packages, without manual compiling and tweaking,
> jails etc, with minimal effort.

that's true, but once you setup a dedicated Poudriere machine, that all
your deployments are happening in jails, that you use some CMS (like
SaltStack), and that everything is based on ZFS it's a *lot* easier to
maintain on the long term, and you have a lot of flexibility. I think
it's a good practice to isolate services as much as possible (even if it
would be possible to run several instances of php-fpm with different PHP
versions I wouldn't do it, and use one JAIL per PHP version), and to
install the minimum required on the HOST (usually I only install a
SaltStack minion)

I have to deal with some very old (15+ years) shit at work that isn't
updated but has to be accessible (webapps) (don't ask) and thanks to
jails and things like rctl I could stil use that latest -RELEASE while
isolating the old shit in 10.x-RELEASE jails. Try to do that with
Linux.. (I don't say it's impossible but it would require a lot more
work IMHO)

> Not that FreeBSD could not do that, it just does not do that. Especially
> PHP verions are a great PITA.
> -- 
> Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
> 2:5005/49 at fidonet

Julien Cigar
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