Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd

Aryeh Friedman aryeh.friedman at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 12:50:36 UTC 2020


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 8:28 AM Chris Knipe <savage at savage.za.org> wrote:

> https://imgur.com/a/eW01Zc2   Your own message - a very good example of
> what's wrong with it.  Straight from gmail.  In outlook (for example, which
> has a narrower reading plane), it will be even worse, as even -more-
> scrolling would be required.
>

Reading the original message on gmail was no problem for me nor unreadable
in any way (you must have your gmail configured in some f'ed up way!).


> We don't use 640x480 monitors anymore (hell, not even our SSH sessions run
> at these low resolutions and 80 col / 25 rows anymore) - we're way past
> that as well...  Whilst I now have to scroll up and down to read your
> message, I could have seen your entire message in one screen without the
> need to scroll up and down.
>

Maybe if you have *perfect* eyesight you could see it on one screen! (Not
everyone is 18 and has vision better than most fighter pilots).    And you
might be wrong about the row/col count of some/most SSH (X based terminal
apps) for example on a 1920x1080 monitor (27") my 50 year old eyes need
37x135 (not that much larger than 25x80) when using a xfce terminal, the
default font size is unreadable even with 1.75 diopter reading glasses
(which are not needed if I use the above resolution).    Before you go
crazy about how everything can be done via a GUI I have one question: are
you a programmer or a sysadmin? (if not then you have no idea of how useful
a command line is vs. the GUI).



> What's the most efficient?  I guess that's a matter of opinion too.
>

If it is unreadable then it is clearly no efficient.


> I hear what you are saying, and I am by no means suggesting sending a 200kb
> email, with 10mb of HTML embedded in it either, but we are WAY past, 80
> col, 25 rows...   It would be interesting to see how 80x25 actually looks
> on today's say, 34" monitors (or whatever the entry level monitors are
> these days)
>

Entry level from my local computer superstore (microcenter) is 25" and I am
sure I would have an even lower resolution there.  So no we are *NOT* way
past 25x80, you are just being dense and an elitist to say otherwise.


> --
>
> Regards,
> Chris Knipe
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