Minimal skills

Donald Wilde dwilde1 at
Fri Jun 5 00:54:23 UTC 2020

On 6/4/20, Polytropon <freebsd at> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:08:01 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote:
>> If it's an Android phone, whatever MUA you have on it should also have
>> such setting switches.
> Emailing on a smartphone is a terrible experience. Real people
> use a real computer for real stuff. :-)

I'm busily re-designing smartphones in my 'spare' cycles because they
barely fit my needs for a _phone_!

>> What I'd suggest that you do is to go to and create
>> brandon.helsey at and subscribe that address to your
>> open-source mailing list collection. The GMail client can be accessed
>> from any (lynx, anyone? Haven't tested THAT one :) ) web browser, so
>> you can use this on your FreeBSD machine or even a public library
>> computer.
> Which, from a security point of view, is one of the worst things

Point taken.As you can see, 'easy' has overtaken 'secure' for me for
some time. As yet, my GMail hasn't been hacked and it does a pretty
good job of stomping spam, especially from actual live politicians.

> you can do. But as there already is a FreeBSD system with X, all
> that's needed is the installation of a decent MUA, and there are
> plenty of them available: Thunderbird, Sylpheed, alpine, mutt, just
> to name a few without judging. Sure, you need to do a few settings,
> but unlike what you have on smartphones, you actually _can_ do
> this, if the defaults are not reasonable. This is an O(1) thing:
> You make those settings _once_.

Point, again.

>> The downside to GMail is that it is more difficult to categorize
>> e-mails, but IIRC it can be done.
> In my opinion, it's just added complexity to something as simple
> as email. Adding Google's Gmail to the mix does not lead to any
> benefits, I'd say. Probably "" already offers some
> web mailer that could be used. But as there is IMAP confirmed,
> why not use that with a normal mailing program on a real computer?
> Anything is better than trying to do this on a smartphone, without
> real success... :-)

Actually, I do like to have folders of e-mails that I stash, but
that's a personal preference. It sounds like the MBox format can do
that, so I'll make a transition myself in some near future.

> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0

3.4 for me, if I recall, but I got sidetracked (!!!) for J O B
requirements. Not that it matters, but I still have a binder full of
actual FOSS CDROMs from Walnut Creek...

Don Wilde
* What is the Internet of Things but a system *
* of systems including humans?                     *

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