change in tcsh behavior
roberthuff at rcn.com
Tue Jul 28 11:55:26 UTC 2020
From: Robert Huff <roberthuff at rcn.com>
To: Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp at FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: change in tcsh behavior
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> > > How do I go back to the old output?
> > Set sysctl kern.tty_info_kstacks to 0.
> > Umm ... is there a reason this isn't the default?
> I think the idea was that it is useful enough to enable it by
> default. Otherwise, it would be really hard to discover it. This
> change was well received by various developers, and it also had an
> revision where the default was changed from 1 to 2 (or something)
> to make it a little bit more compact.
And if it makes their life easier, then I approve.
1) something visibly changed, that
2) affects the default system shell and therefore a _lot_ of
users, many of which like the old way
3) without warning or documentation (e.g. a single line entry in
src/UPDATING), and figuring out what happened is, in your
words "really hard to discover" for the casual user.
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