[FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

Paul Pathiakis pathiaki2 at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 18 16:25:26 UTC 2020


 Hi,
And, as an alternative to my personal workstations running FreeBSD with KDE, my middle-aged gf and her 85 yo mother are running GhostBSD which are really quite nice.
Also, I'm someone who fully supports the 4 minor rev (please can we stop the .4 release on a major rev?) on a version.  It is the only way to keep moving forward with the speed of things being developed in the industry.  Although I totally disagree with Agile (as do its authors), I do believe that the traditional, software engineering practice of project plan, project items, engineering, qa/test, and release works quite well.
It allows to have a major underpinning, version like 12, and go forward with stable, incremental enhancements and bug-fixes.  Personally, all the crazy things like Waterfall, Agile etc are just bandages for lack of communication between engineering and operations in most corporations.  I've always been amazed that I can take a <version>.0 and run it.  I've never seen anything like that in the Linux Kernel or a MS Windows release.
I tend to think of a Version from start to finish to be <VERSION>.0 to <VERSION>.{3,4}..... In FreeBSD, that's upwards of 4-5 years.  To not upgrade from a minor version to the next is to say "I'm not going to do maintenance and you can't make me".  It's shortsighted and not proper system administration.
My $0.02,
Paul


    On Tuesday, February 18, 2020, 9:27:59 AM EST, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:  
 
 

> On Feb 18, 2020, at 5:00 AM, @lbutlr <kremels at kreme.com> wrote:
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> On 17 Feb 2020, at 20:23, Tomasz CEDRO <tomek at cedro.info> wrote:
>> Why so short End-Of-Life? Why so many fast and short releases? What for?
> 
> This was vcovered a few years ago (well, “few” when the new timelines were being discussed.
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>> What was wrong with having one well tested stable system for a long time?
> 
> The need to ensure systems are running secure software and are not trivially exploitable.
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>> FreeBSD does not seem to be reliable desktop environment
> 
> True for ever non-Apple Unix variant. Most (that is to say nearly all) FreeBSD installs are non0desktop servers.
> 

I have workstation (desktop) running FreeBSD. One of the systems my Laptop runs is FreeBSD as well. Nothing unreliable about both. And from what is said on this list, I’m not the only one.

Valeri

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