OT: android phone backup NOT to google cloud question

Valeri Galtsev galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu
Fri May 17 14:14:10 UTC 2019

On 2019-05-17 09:01, Carmel NY wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2019 09:15:20 -0400, James B. Byrne via
> freebsd-questions stated:
>> On Thu, May 16, 2019 12:37, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>> Speaking for Motorola (bought out by Lenovo not long ago if I'm not
>>> mistaken): nope. Other vendors: say, my old (~ 5 years maybe) Samsung
>>> Galaxy note 3 I got through AT&T - there was tool to make local own
>>> backup (can not vouch for full restore like iTunes allows for
>>> iDevices), but it's been too long since.
>>> My general impression is things got worse, i.e. google cloud,
>>> or maybe some vendors will offer their cloud instead of google.
>>> On the other hand the company invested so much of money
>>> (I'm staying from guessing about source of it) into data mining
>>> does want data trickle to them, even if you get your data
>>> back ultimately. I mean as investment, making android system,
>>> and keeping developing it, and supporting huge variety of
>>> hardware. Cost is enormous, there should be even bigger return
>>> on investment. So as return my suspicious mind would call
>>> the data android system allows its creator to receive.
>> . . .
>>> Valeri
>>>> Since Android isn't real-time audio capable I'm using iPads.
>>>> Each time a Windows release does reach end of life, there's the need
>>>> to set up a new virtual machine with a new Windows guest, to get the
>>>> required iTunes releases running. It's quite annoying, but at least
>>>> an iOS device user isn't forced to use iCloud for a backup.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>> Recommended reading:
>> __The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at
>> the New Frontier of Power__, Zuboff, Shoshana ,PublicAffairs, New
>> York, 2019.  ISBN-13: 978-1610395694
>> P.S.
>> For IOS users check your devices' Analytics Settings and view its
>> history. Then research how to purge it.  Some of you may find this
>> interesting, others disturbing.
> However, the rest of us who do not go about with tin foil covering our
> heads, will go on with our lives content that our phones are not filled
> with child pornography or covert plans to overthrow the government.

Yours is very trivial repeating of the defense the ones who do the 
spying use. They never actually attempt to prove un-provable: that the 
do not spy. Instead they mix with dirt and ridicule the ones who attempt 
to mention it. Tin foil hats is one of their nice ridicule inventions. 
Alas, instead of looking into the subject, using their brain and 
analyzing facts many even clever people indulge their laziness, and just 
repeat the nonsense. So, being not involved into dirty business (I 
trust), alas, you help them with posts like that.



Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247

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