thunderbird in German?

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com
Mon Aug 5 11:34:51 UTC 2019


On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:11:20 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
>> Btw. way closer to Thunderbird features is Evolution. Claws and
>> Sylpheed are lightweight, but might miss features one or the other
>> user might need.  
>
>That's why it's important to evaluate beforehand which features are
>needed by the users. Lightweight doesn't always mean usable _in a
>specific setting_, but it _could_ be, depending on the features
>needed. And you're right that Evolution is hardly "lightweight",
>but more like Thunderbird in terms of provided features.

Today I got rid of several Evolution issues. I suspect the culprit
that Evolution was buggy after closing and upgrading evolution is
related to the fact, that Evolution does not terminate all processes
after closing it. Today I killed evolution related processes before
launching it again.



[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ evolution 

(evolution-alarm-notify:10419): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 13:17:49.865: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run().
Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe
Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe
Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe
Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe
Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe

(evolution:10413): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 13:18:30.109: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run().
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ps aux | grep evolution
rocketm+  8640  0.0  0.3 404416 26532 ?        Ssl  12:28   0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-source-registry
rocketm+  8646  0.0  0.7 661092 57804 ?        Sl   12:28   0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-data-server/evolution-alarm-notify
rocketm+  8653  0.0  0.3 924600 30576 ?        Ssl  12:28   0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-calendar-factory
rocketm+  8662  0.0  0.3 691876 28336 ?        Ssl  12:28   0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-addressbook-factory
rocketm+ 10546  0.0  0.0   7556  2352 pts/1    S+   13:18   0:00 grep evolution
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ pkill -9 evolution
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ps aux | grep evolution
rocketm+ 10549  0.0  0.0   7556  2372 pts/1    S+   13:18   0:00 grep evolution
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$



Lightweight apps don't run several processes.



[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ps aux | grep -eclaws -esylp
rocketm+ 10551  3.2  2.3 282748 190260 ?       S    13:19   0:13 claws-mail
rocketm+ 10657  0.0  0.0   8508  3652 ?        S    13:19   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/chuser sylpheed
rocketm+ 10659  0.2  0.3 111564 29404 ?        S    13:19   0:01 gksudo -u chuser sylpheed
root     10660  0.0  0.0  34464  6608 ?        Ss   13:19   0:00 /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p GNOME_SUDO_PASS -u chuser -- sylpheed
chuser   10686  0.0  0.4 112380 38300 ?        S    13:19   0:00 sylpheed
rocketm+ 10720  0.0  0.0   7424  2304 pts/0    R+   13:26   0:00 grep -eclaws -esylp
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ps -T -p 10551
  PID  SPID TTY          TIME CMD
10551 10551 ?        00:00:14 claws-mail
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ps -T -p 10686
  PID  SPID TTY          TIME CMD
10686 10686 ?        00:00:00 sylpheed



It does look a little bit confusing, because I run sylpheed as another
user.


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