freebsd : personal mailing system : setup : at wits end

Mayuresh Kathe mayuresh at
Thu Oct 11 07:43:55 UTC 2018

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:21:48AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:41:28 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > okay, so i have spent the past 3 days trying to setup a personal mailing
> > system under freebsd 11.2.
> > 
> > i have grown to hate the stateful nature of "mutt" and relish the fond
> > memories of "MH".
> > 
> > but, i have been unable to find material about how to setup a MH based
> > mailing system for personal use, for that matter, i have been unable to
> > locate a package for MH, is it listed under a different name like
> > heirloom or something?
> MH is just a way of storing mail messages and mailboxes. It's
> an alternative to classic mbox, and the conceptual origin of
> MailDir (often considered today's standard).

afaik, 'mh' was an elegant solution to mailx and other captive user
interfaces to the email problem under unix.
'mh' allowed one to follow the "unix philosophy" to _manage_ emails.
the fact that it used "one file per email" which _is_ the conceptual
origin of maildir is one of the by-products.
> > could someone please help me understand the nitty-grities of getting a
> > personal mail system setup under freebsd?
> Can you be more precise about what "mail system" should include
> for you? The term itself is too broad. A "mail system" could be
> one, several, or all of those:
> 	mail transfer agent - MTA (transmits to other servers)
> 	mail delivery agent - MDA (delivers to local boxes)
> 	mail user agent - MUA ("mail program" for the user)

for me, "mail system" would include interacting with my emails to send,
receive and manage them as effortlessly as possible, and at the same
time being stateless (unlike my current mailer "mutt").

so yeah, i am talking about the "mail _user_agent_" thing. :-)
> As you initially mentioned "personal mailing system", do you wish
> to run your own server for receiving messages, or do you only want
> a means to get your messages from storage elsewhere, and have some
> specific kind of access to them? Do you think fetchmail + SHH + pine
> could be such a combination?

now (as-in unlike the past), i have no intention of running my own mail
server for managing mails.
i have a mail service provider who manages my mailboxes online for my
domain and allows me to access my mails over imap, pop3 and smtp.

i think a combination of fetchmail, sendmail and nmh should do the trick
for me, but i have no idea about how to setup sendmail for anything,
leave aside a simple situation as mine. and sendmail is installed by
default under freebsd!  :-)


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