FreeBSD did it again (still)

Baho Utot baho-utot at
Wed Jul 5 21:39:31 UTC 2017

On 7/5/2017 5:30 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> On 2017-07-06 03:21, Baho Utot wrote:
>> On 7/5/2017 4:31 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
>>> On 2017-07-06 01:54, Baho Utot wrote:
>>>> Up graded an old laptop from 10.1 to 11.0-p10.  I then checked out 
>>>> the latest quarterly ports.  I figured that FreeBSD would barf and 
>>>> I was not disappointed. Built the ports with synth and then I 
>>>> installed them, xorg promptly shit itself.
>>>> So I typed pkg autoremove just for shits and giggles. Before the 
>>>> upgrade pkg autoremove did nothing ( nothing to remove ) the latest 
>>>> pkg wanted to remove all of Xorg and some other things but not 
>>>> remove lumina.  Figure that one out.
>>>> Working on figuring this out.
>>>> Can you tell me why FreeBSD doesn't need versioned ports again? I 
>>>> am just looking for something that works, I don't need the last 
>>>> version of xyz that just came off the press.
>>>> Thinking I may need to leave FreeBSD and find something that is 
>>>> stable/works.  An upgrade from a recent version should not requir 
>>>> days to weeks to get it to work.
>>> Hi,
>>> Not sure what you are aiming at here but - just felt I had to comment.
>>> You are probably right that there must be cohersion between packages 
>>> and system when using prebuilt binaries.
>>> My way of doing it is the opposite, everything is compiled from 
>>> source, the classic *nix way. This way, FreeBSD has never let me down.
>>> I think the best approach if you have an older system where it takes 
>>> ages to compile, you really need to follow a strict path using 
>>> packages. On a more recent system, nothing beats source builds.
>>> There has been a lot of discussion over this matter recently, please 
>>> understand that this is not RedHat or Ubuntu, the resources needed 
>>> to keep up with building binaries are limited in comparison. If you 
>>> need prebuilt packages, please just contribute to the work.
>>> Just my SEK 0.2
>>> //per
>> I built the ports from svn source using synth I did not use prebuilt 
>> binaries.  I did do it the classic *nix way.
> That was odd. But if you provide more detailed info I'm sure there is 
> help on the list.
> I only use portmaster due to its ease of use, have no experience from 
> synth.
> //per

What is ODD is that I have not received my original post that started 
this thread, from the mailing list.  It has not come thru the FreeBSD 
mailing list.   I wanted to have a look at the headers. I checked the 
timestamps on my client box was/is correct ( running ntp ) my mail 
server is correct ( running ntp ).

I am investigating why  the upgrade to the laptop has failed.   This 
happens every time I upgrade if the upgrade cycle is 6 months to a 
year.  I simply don't have the time to go thru this every time I do an 
upgrade.  It should just work ( I know some edge case may not that is 
not what I am talking about ).  One should be able to update a machine ( 
desktop ) and it should still function.  If I am crashing a package or 
two that is fine, the whole desktop should not go from usable to 

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