Jive prejudices

[Louis Epstein]

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Alphons van Werven wrote:

> Louis Epstein wrote:
>
> > In any event,portmaster -a -i updates now abort because misc/jive is
> > detected on my system.
> >
> > This goes beyond "We will no longer provide this application" to
> > "we will no longer let you upgrade your applications as long as you
> > have this one installed".
>
> To be fair, I strongly doubt this is deliberate policy.
>
> Portmaster itself is a port too. When pkg(7) hit the streets and other
> sweeping changes were made to the ports infrastructure, Portmaster had to
> be updated and that might still be an ongoing process. In any case, Port-
> master needs *some* way of dealing with broken(*) ports and I can imagine
> that this can get tricky when dependencies are involved. From the looks of
> it, Portmaster just takes the easy way out and simply bails completely
> when it encounters a broken port.

Does it matter that I installed it with pkg rather than portmaster or make
install?

> However, wouldn't using the option "-x misc/jive" help for the time being?

adding that before or after the -a -i leads to the same abort.

> Jive *will* be kept available through alternative means in a way that
> Portmaster should be able to handle too.
>
> > You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people use.
>
> To that I couldn't agree more.
>
> Fonz
>
> Ad (*): Here I mean broken in the broadest sense. Morality-fuelled censor-
> ship is rare, but occasionally ports are unfetchable, have security holes,
> fail to build or simply don't work.
>
> A.J. "Fonz" van Werven <freebsd at skysmurf.nl>

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