math "formulae" using libreoffice

Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka at
Fri Nov 29 07:03:56 UTC 2013

Am 2013-11-29 05:43, schrieb Polytropon:
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:27:01 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
>> On 11/22/13 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
>> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
>> >> 	I'l ck it out, thankee.  I have been wondering about the diff
>> >> 	between openX and libreX {X == "office"} but  guessed that
>> >> 	"open" was what the BSD's chose ...
>> > No, they are two different products, maintained independently.
>> > If I remember correctly, it started with StarOffice as the first
>> > major office suite becoming a free product (I've been using
>> > version 3.x and 4.0 of this), it was then "incorporated" by
>> > Sun which later became OpenOffice. When Oracle bought and
>> > (mostly) destroyed Sun, OpenOffice was one of the victims;
>> > they added proprietary code and finally abandoned it. That
>> > was the time when LibreOffice was forked. Today, LibreOffice
>> > is _the_ office suite per se.
>> Not to start a war, but it went StarOffice as a free product (up to
>> about 5 or 6, I think), then Sun made it a paid product and forked
>> OpenOffice as an open source alternative (good ole Sun); then Oracle 
>> got
>> involved and Libreoffice was forked with some of the original devs
>> walking with it and overhauling it in the process, and finally with
>> OpenOffice finally abandoned to the wolves by Oracle at a later date 
>> and
>> rescued by the Apache incubator project not so many years ago now.
> That won't start a war, at least not from my side. :-)
> I wasn't aware that Sun didn't continue the "tradition of free"
> from the start. It's always nice to learn something about history.
> So todays we're left with the decision "Apache OpenOffice vs.
> TDF LibreOffice" (just mentioning the "big players", there's
> still AbiWord, Gnumeric et al. as separate components)...

I'm afraid this is still not quite correct. To the best of my knowledge, 
StarDivision (from Hamburg, Germany) sold StarOffice as a commercial 
software until they were purchased by Sun. However, at this point the 
software had been free for personal use for about a year or so. It was 
not open source though. After purchasing StarOffice, Sun made it free 
for commercial use as well and eventually released the sources as well. 
This recollection matches what I read here:


Markus Hoenicka
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