Still having trouble with package upgrades
Peter Harrison
four.harrisons at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 8 13:05:01 UTC 2012
Da Sorry for top posting - my 'phone makes it difficult.
Do You made the same points on-list debate about the strengths ports and packages system.
I don't se I have certainly releases in the past, so I c Be that as it may, if you ca time, money, or server resources to cre system you're talking about I don't see how it help harangue the user community about your wish to make FreeBS like Debian.
Regards,
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Peter Harrison
From: Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:29
To:< Subject: Still having trouble w I still have yet to find a resolution to with
binary packages and upgrades on FreeBSD broken with
every tool I have tried.
There is no real reason why FreeBSD should not provide a facility fo r users
to be able to binary upgrade to the most recent version of al packages
with a simple upgrade command.
One faulty arg upgrade
to new for
pro install
that will will work properly, and improve upon and fix problems with
older releases. This is why mainline release are differentiated from betas and
the CVS downloads which are experimental. So you really do want most
recent release, especially for corrections to any security p Making
upgrades more difficult actually makes the system more exposing
people for a long time to security problems tha software but
making it difficult for people to upgrad
As for the security issues of downloading binary pac is
source packages are not safer than binary packages a bit.
I am astonished that people here would not r having safe
binary installs is do-able from mirro package
management software download MD5s from them and
test the downloaded package, is not be
installed the user will be problem
to be sent to the Fr releases are
no more danger insert
bad cod MD5
checki that
sourc
As for compile feature
options and packages, for
the sta build
the
A good software philosophy is to all box with
as little configuration as po configured
by the user if they wan defaults
which can be overrid complicated things doabl hidden
from users, but if pe free to
use advanced scr control. In
GUI design, while
advanc advanced or
ex configured or
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A good user frien packages
of the ent It
should wo date to
rece purpose of
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why dont the freebsd admin that
automatically compiles the s ports
are updated.
< without doing a system wide all at once OS-release upgrades at all. There is no re ason why
kernel and userland programs have to be upgraded at the same Especially considering its a good design practice for kernel t provide
backward compatability. Instead the system would be pieceme updated over
time, including the kernel, in a piecemeal fashion. T system
wide OS distribution version numbers like FreeBSD obsolete.
Versions are still very valuable for the ke of the
entire system software, it has becom from an
age when people would receive everything all at once, now soft way
over time with automatic upda once
system wide upgrades actual meant
often months would go b delying the
application of v and the
hacker, t and
Flash an
syst between
u distribution CD. The idea of waiting on a FreeBSD kernel release to upgrade firef ox is
absurd, and the idea that firefox must be upgraded during a ker upgrade
is also absurd. The piecemeal model is much more convenie users,
providing more up to date packages and no OS release up hassle.
There really should be little reason for release these
days, when the different parts of the system independantly
through a binary package management too user
programs.
When a new kernel the
packages on userland
packages h there
has to
Some here suggested PC-B fact
in its documentatio to
upgrade to a new ke reinstall
everything just creates more
trouble more user
un the
system, a user having to upgrade userland packages for a kernel
upgrade i a symptom of serious design faults and deficiencies. These two part should
be able to be upgraded independently and a good system assur backwards
compatability support so older packages can run on a new kernel.
For now I have totally given up on FreeBSD, all I h were
problems, big problems. The lack of smooth binar poor
virtual box support made it very difficult t _______________________________________________
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