Realtek RTL8191SEvB Linux driver?

[Jeffrey McFadden]

Thanks, all.  I found a manual online.
Jeff

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On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Da Rock <
freebsd-questions at herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> On 01/04/12 10:38, Daniel Feenberg wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Da Rock wrote:
>>
>>  On 01/04/12 02:10, Daniel Feenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Da Rock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 01/03/12 22:10, Jerry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:44:30 +1000
>>>>>> Da Rock articulated:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 01/03/12 11:15, Jeffrey McFadden wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't ndis(4) ndiscvt and ndisgen(8)  essentially accomplish what the
>>>> OP is requesting? See the handbook section 12.8.1.1:
>>>>
>>>>    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_**US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/**
>>>> config-network-setup.html<http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html>
>>>>
>>>> or the man page for ndiscvt:
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/**man.cgi?section=8&topic=**ndiscvt<http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=8&topic=ndiscvt>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While doing the conversion looks a bit beyond what we would expect of
>>>> an end-user, it does seem to offer a path for using hardware whose
>>>> manufacturer does not support FreeBSD. Is there anything beyond licensing
>>>> issues preventing such drivers from being included in the distribution, or
>>>> made downloadable in FreeBSD form?
>>>>
>>>
>>  Oh yes, it is possible, just not probable :)
>>>
>>
>> At
>>
>>  http://sourceforge.net/apps/**mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.**
>> php?title=Category:USB<http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Category:USB>
>>
>> almost 800 compatible devices are listed. Not everything, but I have
>> found that a willingness to spend a few dollars on a different card helps
>> immensely in enjoying FreeBSD and Linux. For me at least it is easier to
>> find a compatible card than to write a compatible driver.
>>
> Indeed :)
>
> I did notice that the card in question wasn't on that list. But my own
> experience with ndiswrapper and wifi cards were far less than satisfactory-
> the firmware always got in the road. But I may have just been too stupid at
> the time :)
>
>  I would also observe that most people involved with computers, whether as
>> users or developers, have little symphathy for people with different needs
>> from the device. This is a great impediment to progress. It is a mistake to
>> assume that because you don't need something, another person's desire for
>> it is illegitimate. In this case, I fully agree that it is an injustice
>> that hardware vendors do not supply FreeBSD drivers, but that does not mean
>> that users requiring such drivers are immoral or of poor character, and
>> therefore to be ignored or insulted. There is little that FreeBSD coders
>> and users can do about that injustice directly, however it is within their
>> power to mitigate it with the NDIS wrapper. If that wrapper allows another
>> user to enter the FOSS world, that will (in the fullness of time)
>> contribute to reforming the vendor.
>>
> No they are absolutely not of poor character, I agree. Some messages can
> be misconstrued, though, in that the replies can be terse and more logical
> than sympathetic. Sometimes it is easier to replace with a different card
> than flog a dead horse, although a user may take offense for emotional or
> financial reasons more than logical.
>
> Mitigation is a difficult path as I have found personally, although NDIS
> helps immensely with wired nics (not so much of a problem these days), and
> I believe Luigi Rizzo's work with the linuxulator and drivers is to be
> applauded ten fold. It takes a great deal of time though- I put forward the
> idea when I was still a BSD pup not entirely realising the challenges :)
> Luigi (and his colleagues) has been working hard ever since to facilitate
> the more challenging aspects of multimedia drivers (whether or not that had
> to do with my comments or not, I don't know).
>
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