Realtek RTL8191SEvB Linux driver?

[Jeffrey McFadden]

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Daniel Feenberg <feenberg at nber.org> wrote:

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>
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Da Rock wrote:
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>  On 01/04/12 02:10, Daniel Feenberg wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Da Rock wrote:
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>>>  On 01/03/12 22:10, Jerry wrote:
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>>>>> On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:44:30 +1000
>>>>> Da Rock articulated:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 01/03/12 11:15, Jeffrey McFadden wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't ndis(4) ndiscvt and ndisgen(8)  essentially accomplish what the OP
>>> is requesting? See the handbook section 12.8.1.1:
>>>
>>>    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_**US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/**
>>> config-network-setup.html<http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html>
>>>
>>> or the man page for ndiscvt:
>>>
>>>  http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/**man.cgi?section=8&topic=**ndiscvt<http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=8&topic=ndiscvt>
>>>
>>>
>>> While doing the conversion looks a bit beyond what we would expect of an
>>> end-user, it does seem to offer a path for using hardware whose
>>> manufacturer does not support FreeBSD. Is there anything beyond licensing
>>> issues preventing such drivers from being included in the distribution, or
>>> made downloadable in FreeBSD form?
>>>
>>
>  Oh yes, it is possible, just not probable :)
>>
>
> At
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>  http://sourceforge.net/apps/**mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.**
> php?title=Category:USB<http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Category:USB>
>
> almost 800 compatible devices are listed. Not everything, but I have found
> that a willingness to spend a few dollars on a different card helps
> immensely in enjoying FreeBSD and Linux. For me at least it is easier to
> find a compatible card than to write a compatible driver.
>

um, well, yeah, but it's a laptop.  :/  And I bought it before FreeBSD ever
crossed my mind.  <sigh>


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> I would also observe that most people involved with computers, whether as
> users or developers, have little symphathy for people with different needs
> from the device. This is a great impediment to progress. It is a mistake to
> assume that because you don't need something, another person's desire for
> it is illegitimate. In this case, I fully agree that it is an injustice
> that hardware vendors do not supply FreeBSD drivers, but that does not mean
> that users requiring such drivers are immoral or of poor character, and
> therefore to be ignored or insulted. There is little that FreeBSD coders
> and users can do about that injustice directly, however it is within their
> power to mitigate it with the NDIS wrapper. If that wrapper allows another
> user to enter the FOSS world, that will (in the fullness of time)
> contribute to reforming the vendor.
>
> Daniel Feenberg
>
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