Technical Support Question (fwd)

Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
Thu Feb 16 16:30:24 UTC 2012


Hi,
Please keep on list so others can help you too.
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Hi Julian and thanks for you reply.


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Well if you just wanted to trash the MS & not recover data ?
that's easy, the fdisk within BSD install should do it,
but you could always try something like
       dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 count=1000
DO NOT TRY THAT ON ANY SYSTEM WITH ANY DATA YOU VALUE
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This is what I would like to do, but windows restored to an older version
where i do not remember login pswd, as mentioned.

So automatically boots to the security layer and overrides the reordering
in the BIOS

I have phoenix BIOS to set to CD boot first

I am not advanced enough to know what you mean by the "if then" statements.
please enlighten.

I will try using an older version per your suggestion and let you know how
it goes

Thanks again




On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Julian H. Stacey <jhs at berklix.com> wrote:

> Chip Oakley wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am upgrading to BSD from windows.
> >
> > I am having complications with an old password from Windows that I cannot
> > remember.
> >
> > I created an ISO Boot CD on another computer and installed it and made
> sure
> > to set the BIOS to boot from CD, to no avail.
>
> There's 2 types of PC boot CDs I believe, FreeBSD changed to the
> newer method in last year or so I think (maybe just for 8.* ?), so
> if yours is an older PC it might be looking for the other sort. You
> could try a few years old (eg 6.* or probably 7.*) FreeBSD CDROM
> for interest to see if that boots.
>
>
> > Is there a way to access the executable files from the CD
>
> Question not clear.
> You can access to read & execute all files from CDROM, by using the LIVEFS
> (live file system) option.
>
> To access files on the MS partition[s],
> If fdisk shows the MS still present you can also mount the MS file systems
> from BSD (regardless whether BSD is booted & running from CD or hard disk)
>
> For that you would need either
>        mount -t msdosfs .....  if its an older FS      or
>        mount -t ntfs -r .....  if its a newer NTFS
>                                it only support read only mode,
>        That mount command calls eg
>                /sbin/mount_msdosfs
>                /sbin/mount_ntfs
>        Thats where they are on a hard disc.
>        If FreeBSD hasnt installed yet, you'll find them I recall under
>        something like /mnt2/sbin/mount_msdosfs
>        (I think the cd is already mounted)
> If you want to write individual files on an MS NTFS you need ntfs-3g
> which is partly broken (one error noted in my
>         http://berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/shrink/
> & a lot easier to run from a hard disk working system.
>
> > and overwrite
> > windows for my BSD installation?
>
> Well if you just wanted to trash the MS & not recover data ?
> that's easy, the fdisk within BSD install should do it,
> but you could always try something like
>        dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 count=1000
> DO NOT TRY THAT ON ANY SYSTEM WITH ANY DATA YOU VALUE
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
> --
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> http://berklix.com
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Hi Julian and thanks for you reply.<br><br><br>----------------------------=
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ll if you just wanted to trash the MS &amp; not recover data ?<br>
that&#39;s easy, the fdisk within BSD install should do it,<br>
but you could always try something like<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ad0 count=3D1000<br>
DO NOT TRY THAT ON ANY SYSTEM WITH ANY DATA YOU VALUE<br>------------------=
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- ---------------<br><font color=3D"#000099">This is what I would like to do,=
 but windows restored to an older version where i do not remember login psw=
d, as mentioned. <br>
<br>So automatically boots to the security layer and overrides the reorderi=
ng in the BIOS<br><br></font><font color=3D"#000099"> I have phoenix BIOS t=
o set to CD boot first</font><br><font color=3D"#000099"><br>I am not advan=
ced enough to know what you mean by the &quot;if then&quot; statements. ple=
ase enlighten.<br>
<br>I will try using an older version per your suggestion and let you know =
how it goes<br><br>Thanks again<br>=A0</font><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Julian H. Stacey <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jhs at berklix.com">jhs at berklix.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">Chip Oakley wrote:<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am upgrading to BSD from windows.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am having complications with an old password from Windows that I can=
not<br>
&gt; remember.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I created an ISO Boot CD on another computer and installed it and made=
 sure<br>
&gt; to set the BIOS to boot from CD, to no avail.<br>
<br>
</div>There&#39;s 2 types of PC boot CDs I believe, FreeBSD changed to the<=
br>
newer method in last year or so I think (maybe just for 8.* ?), so<br>
if yours is an older PC it might be looking for the other sort. You<br>
could try a few years old (eg 6.* or probably 7.*) FreeBSD CDROM<br>
for interest to see if that boots.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
&gt; Is there a way to access the executable files from the CD<br>
<br>
</div>Question not clear.<br>
You can access to read &amp; execute all files from CDROM, by using the LIV=
EFS<br>
(live file system) option.<br>
<br>
To access files on the MS partition[s],<br>
If fdisk shows the MS still present you can also mount the MS file systems =
from BSD (regardless whether BSD is booted &amp; running from CD or hard di=
sk)<br>
<br>
For that you would need either<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mount -t msdosfs ..... =A0if its an older FS =A0 =A0 =A0or<=
br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mount -t ntfs -r ..... =A0if its a newer NTFS<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0it only sup=
port read only mode,<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0That mount command calls eg<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/sbin/mount_msdosfs<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/sbin/mount_ntfs<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Thats where they are on a hard disc.<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0If FreeBSD hasnt installed yet, you&#39;ll find them I reca=
ll under<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0something like /mnt2/sbin/mount_msdosfs<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(I think the cd is already mounted)<br>
If you want to write individual files on an MS NTFS you need ntfs-3g<br>
which is partly broken (one error noted in my<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"http://berklix.com/%7Ejhs/hardware/laptops/shri=
nk/" target=3D"_blank">http://berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/shrink/</a>=
<br>
&amp; a lot easier to run from a hard disk working system.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; and overwrite<br>
&gt; windows for my BSD installation?<br>
<br>
</div>Well if you just wanted to trash the MS &amp; not recover data ?<br>
that&#39;s easy, the fdisk within BSD install should do it,<br>
but you could always try something like<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ad0 count=3D1000<br>
DO NOT TRY THAT ON ANY SYSTEM WITH ANY DATA YOU VALUE<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Julian<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
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