Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

Jerry jerry at seibercom.net
Mon Aug 20 15:21:55 UTC 2012

On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:09:12 +0000 (UTC)
jb articulated:

> here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's
> view) on Linux developments:
> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820
> Reader Comments
> "1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 2012-08-20 10:11:39 GMT from
> France) Much has been said on the subject of Systemd. Let me quote
> Eric Hameleers, one of Slackware's developers.
> "[...] systemd is essentially evil. It is invasive, extremely hostile
> to other environments, threatening to kill non-Linux ecosystems which
> have hal, udev, dbus, consolekit, polkit, udisks, upower and friends
> as dependencies. And every iteration of the software written by the
> Redhat employees who are responsible for hal, udev, consiolekit,
> polkit and now systemd are incompatible with previous releases,
> re-implementing their bad ideas with new bad ideas... basically
> proving that these Redhat employees must be declared unfit to work on
> the core of a Linux distro. However, the influence of their employer
> is so big that these products are forced upon the wider UNIX
> community and at some point it will be "assimilate or die". I hope we
> (Slackware) will find a way where we do not have to assimilate but
> still manage to keep the distro working. I have high hopes for KDE
> which has no Redhat ties and so far, manages to stay clear of this
> mess, sticking to widely accepted standards."
> Cheers from a Slackware user."
> For those of you who are unfamiliar - systemd is a replacement for
> SysV, LSB, and Upstart init subsystem scripts.
> Together with some other technologies like GNOME 3 (soon GNOME OS ?)
> they are aiming at being Microsoft-like Linux distro (soon OS ?).
> On my FreeBSD machine:
> $ ls /var/db/pkg/
> ...
> hal-0.5.14_19/
> dbus-1.4.14_i3/
> consolekit-0.4.3/
> polkit-0.99/
> upower-0.9.7/
> ...
> Also, once again I refer to Linux-related ports in *BSD ecosystem
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linux&stype=all
> and warn against becoming entangled in affairs of Linux ecosystem.

Change is scary. There were those who believed in the early 1900's that
there were no new discoveries to be made or inventions to be designed
and implemented. Thank God that there were those who said, "Wow, this
8086 processor is cool; however, I think we can do better." Change is
always scary and sometimes even dangerous; however, everything either
evolves or dies.

Unless someone is holding a gun to your head forcing you to accept
changes that you do not approve of, I do not see a problem. With that
said, telling others that they have to watch their TV by candle light
is an extremely limited view of the bigger picture. An analog man in a
digital world can be confusing and scary.

Personally, I embrace progress. Even if there are ten failures in a
row, that one success can be an life changing idea that can alter the
course of an entire industry.

Jerry ♔

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