get rel 9.0 iso

Polytropon freebsd at
Sun Sep 11 05:23:33 UTC 2011

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 04:11:26 +0000 (GMT), Thomas Mueller wrote:
> To build FreeBSD 9.0 on USB stick for the old computer, host
> computer would be new amd64, cross-compiling for i386.

Yes, in this case you would need to cross-compile.

> I see default /var partition size for new FreeBSD installations
> was to be 4 GB, so I might be safer with 16 GB rather than 8 GB
> USB stick, even though there would be no need to install system
> source and ports tree on the USB stick. 

Those would have been installed on the /usr partition, not
on /var. I think 8 GB might be a quite huge partition, but
that will depend on what you intend to use your server for.
In some cases /var won't get bigger than 1 GB, on other
cases it might fill up quite quickly.

% df -h /var
Filesystem     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1e    989M    133M    776M    15%    /var

This is an example from my home system - you can see that
/var is hardly used.

> But I had already decided that I was not going to have
> separate partitions for /tmp, /var and /usr, but would
> want a separate partition for /home, except possibly
> on a USB stick.

That's a good idea, so you can get rid of partition size
calculations. But note that some temporary process might
fill /tmp and therefore affect the _whole_ partition that
also contains /usr. But maybe that won't be a problem as
you put /home somewhere else.

> Now it looks like FreeBSD 9.0-to-be is pushing the idea
> of installing on GPT; even the memstick installation disk,
> where traditional MBR partitioning scheme would fit
> comfortably, uses GPT.

You can easily apply GTP partitions for the same purpose,
e. g. da0p1 for / (including /tmp, /var and /usr subtrees)
and da0p2 for /home if you want them on _one_ media - or
put da0p1 covering the whole stick to be mounted as /,
and da1p1 (second USB media) for /home.

> I could build one kernel that would support the hardware
> on both computers, or one kernel for each computer.

One for each, as you probably will use AMD64 kernel on the
"bigger" machine. But you still _can_ use i386 on both of
them except you intendedly _require_ AMD64 functionality
on the "bigger" machine.

> FreeBSD itself can run comfortably in well under 256 MB RAM.

Yes, the OS has no problem booting fast even on such limited

> Resource hogs are the big applications: KDE, GNOME, bigger
> web browsers, multimedia, Adobe Flash Player, printers. 

Uhm... printers??? Oh, maybe CUPS, yes. :-)

You can _still_ build workstation systems on limited
hardware, but you have to be _very_ picky about the
applications you use.

For example, I have a 300 MHz P2 workstation that runs
XFCE 3, Opera 8, mplayer (compiled because of getting
the best optimization!), OpenOffice 2, xmms and LaTeX.
This system runs well and is still quite usable.

> Servers, not needing all the fancy stuff, can be set up on
> old computers as long as they're in good condition.

I completely agree, as I'm following this philosophy myself.

Magdeburg, Germany
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