HAL must die!

Ivan Voras ivoras at freebsd.org
Thu Mar 17 16:35:46 UTC 2011

On 17 March 2011 16:10, Lars Eighner <luvbeastie at larseighner.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Krutov Mikle wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 03:32:59PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote:
>>> On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote:
>>>> Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off
>>>> in
>>>> ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global
>>>> default?
>>>> Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without
>>>> having a configuration switch?
>>> Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It's the only
>>> cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which handles
>>> device enumeration, hotplugs, etc.
>> Hi Ivan!
>> As for me, it is like a habit:
>> I've installed Xorg + HAL for the first time;
>> I've seen that my config is ignored;
>> I disabled HAL by-default in make.conf
>> :)
> Setting FORBIDDEN in the HAL port helps to avoid accidentally installing hal
> as can easily happen.  The gstreamer plugin pseudoports have something that
> installs hal and breaks Firefox so any mouse click kills it.

Well yes, that's one thing: if you use HAL, everything must use HAL
and you can't pick and match incompatible applications and force half
of the things in xorg.conf.

As for me, I'm running without any xorg.conf (really, I don't have the
file at all), all my desktop applications are using HAL and everything
is autodetected and "just works", which is as it should be.

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