FreeBSD and SSD drives

Maxim Khitrov max at
Sun Feb 13 17:06:23 UTC 2011

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Chad Perrin <perrin at> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +0000
>> Bruce Cran <bruce at> articulated:
>> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
>> > Jerry <freebsd.user at> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
>> > > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
>> > > clone of Office 97. The newly released "libreoffice" might be usable
>> > > someday; however, it is now only in its infancy. There is no way it
>> > > can be compared to a full blown MS Office 10 suite.
>> >
>> > For some, Office is unusable due to the new Ribbon interface and
>> > libreoffice is the usable office suite due to its familiar menus.
>> New, as in four years old? That is one of the worst straw man arguments
>> I have heard in a while. In any case, In 2008 started
>> the project Renaissance to improve the user interface of OpenOffice. So
>> far the prototypes of the project are frequently seen as similar to the
>> ribbon interface.
> I do not think you understand the term "straw man" as used in reference
> to a logical fallacy.  A straw man fallacy involves using a distraction
> in place of a valid argument, supplanting someone else's argument with
> this distraction, attributing it to that other person for the sake of
> attacking it rather than the argument that other person actually made.
> How, exactly, does the comment about the ribbon fit that definition at
> all?
>> Obviously, the use and customization of any software is a personal
>> experience. However, if the use of the "ribbon" is beyond your
>> abilities, and I am assuming that you are aware that the "ribbon" can
>> be hidden, modified and that there are many "add-ons" available that
>> can be used to manage it, then so be it. I would rather work with an
>> application with a minor annoyance, and I do not find the "ribbon" to be
>> one, then to use a less robust application. Again, it is up to the end
>> user to ascertain their requirements and find the tool that is best
>> fitted to that job.
> "Beyond your abilities" is a better example of a straw man fallacy, since
> I don't think anyone here said "Use of the ribbon is beyond my
> abilities," or anything even remotely equivalent to that.
>> In any case, I am quite confident that your condemnation of the
>> "ribbon" is totally based on your reading of Slashdot and other similar
>> documents and not from any personal experience.
> Interfaces that change without a consistent use model being presented to
> the user -- as is the case with all but the most basic, unsophisticated
> users who are presented with the ribbon -- have long been recognized as a
> failure of usability design, and for good reason.  This is why the words
> "consisten navigation" are so important in Web design circles.
> --
> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: ]

Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
people with first-hand experience in running such setup.

- Max

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