Problems with pkg_upgrade

David Jackson djackson452 at
Mon Dec 26 15:56:48 UTC 2011

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 9:43 AM, RW <rwmaillists at> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:14:24 -0500
> David Jackson wrote:
> > I do think packages need to be better supported on FreeBSD, many
> > users do prefer to use packages due to speed and convenience and do
> > not prefer to build it all. it shouldnt be such a hassle
> If you want to use packages I would suggest updating, as far as
> possible, to release package.

Huh? The release packages are most out of date.  The idea of using old
versions of packages, such as firefox, is dangerous because security
vulnerabilities are always being fixed. So, it really is a best practice to
use the most up to date packages rather than very old ones. To be more user
friendly there needs to be less fuss to using FreeBSD, it needs to just
work. I am a system administrator and in fact, an operating system that
makes things unnecessarily difficult to get working is a problem, user
friendliness is not just for non techies. Good software design involves
allowing the user to configure and work on all parts of the system, and to
make things work the way they want, but not forcing them to configure
anything to use the software, it should work out of the box with reasonable
defaults, and then the user can fine tune to their needs. On ubuntu,
packages can be easily upgraded with apt-get upgrade. No fuss, no mess, no
hours of trying to get something which should be simple to work.

so a system should be very flexible, configurable, transparent and so on,
but a user should not have to configure anything since it should have a
reasonable default behaviour.

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