this is probably a little touchy to ask...

Chip Camden sterling at
Tue Sep 14 22:11:11 UTC 2010

Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Tuesday, 14 September 2010:
> >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert <jules.stocks at> writes:
> Jules> Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java
> Jules> sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle.
> Jules> (It's called Open Source.)
> And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts.  Given Oracle's
> apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't
> *matter* that Java is "open source".  We'll have to wait until Oracle
> v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's
> *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in
> Oracle's bed.

... and Oracle makes for a large bedfellow, with a reputation for a
painful embrace.

Sterling (Chip) Camden    | sterling at | 2048D/3A978E4F |        |
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