this is probably a little touchy to ask...

Kurt Buff kurt.buff at
Fri Sep 10 18:28:41 UTC 2010

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 06:46, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn at> wrote:
>>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert <jules.stocks at> writes:
> Jules> Look, I'm just a user.  I'm not a Java developer, not a language
> Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist.  But folks, we got problems!  I
> Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a
> Jules> browser.
> And that's why I challenged you as to "why".  We needed Java to run in
> the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets.  But with
> HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"?
> Java had its day.  Time to move on.

Why Java? I've worked with several SSL VPNs (SonicWall, Juniper,
Aventail) for $WORK, and they all require a java-enabled browser - so
unless you're suggesting that DHTML and HTML5 can replace that, I need
a java-enabled browser.

Aside from that, there are some really nice apps written in Java -
including Data Crow, which is a pretty decent cataloging utility for
my books and movies and such, and I haven't seen anything nearly as
good as that written in a cross-platform language, so that I can move
it between my FreeBSD machine and my family's Windows machines.


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