Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

Polytropon freebsd at
Fri Nov 12 18:14:41 UTC 2010

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:49:26 -0700, Chad Perrin <perrin at> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:21:01AM -0800, perryh at wrote:
> > Polytropon <freebsd at> wrote:
> > 
> > > The STRENGTH OF GUI (yes, I'm really saying that) is to aid
> > > using language elements, CLI. Arranging windows, presenting
> > > information, displaying structures, managing things. GUI
> > > alone, with no functional substance behind it, is useless.
> > > Sadly, you'll find more and more programs that have blingbling
> > > and "experience", but are useless to those who want to achieve
> > > a certain goal with it.
> > 
> > Another strength, potentially large but all-too-frequently
> > overlooked entirely, is as a learning aid.  In the situation
> > that operations in the GUI map reasonably well to TUI commands
> > -- which by definition includes cases in which the GUI is used
> > as a front-end to issue commands to an external TUI-based program
> > -- the GUI really should have a mode wherein it displays or logs
> > the TUI commands that it is performing.
> I agree.  That is one type of GUI I would really love to see getting more
> popular.

You can already find this concept in use: The Midnight Commander,
allthough a text-based program (but NOT a CLI program!) integrates
command line and "abstracted" operations. It has excellent keyboard
AND mouse support.

Another program that comes to my mind is mencoder + gmencoder. The
gmencoder offers a GUI wrapper for the mencoder program. You can
keep using this GUI program for one-time use, or use the mencoder
command line program for scripting.

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