On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 00:57:14 PDT perryh at pluto.rain.com wrote: >This discussion has drifted badly OT Yes, and it really should be killed, now. Please. My thanks to those few who did NOT take it as an occasion for Christian-bashing. I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired of it being the only religion people feel entitled to poke fun at.