Is this bunk.

Roger B.A. Klorese rogerk at
Mon Aug 23 01:36:00 UTC 2010

  It's a lot like complaining that your bull is counterproductive 
because it isn't a cow and therefore won't yield milk.

If one's definition of "productive" is "expands the amount of software 
in the universe that is non-proprietary," then perhaps the BSD license 
is "non-productive" -- but that was never its goal.

The license serves to improve the amount of reusable software in the 
universe -- and in doing so, the quality of that code -- and in the 
process, the idea that entities could leverage it to build proprietary 
extensions is in the mix.

Many companies have built products with proprietary components using 
BSD-licensed baselines. Rather than start from scratch, they ended up 
with products that were less expensive and higher-quality. For many of 
these companies, religious compliance to software liberation is not a 
pill they would consider swallowing.

On 8/22/10 5:25 PM, Garry wrote:
> This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this
> as twaddle.
> Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in),
> they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get
> much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD.
> Also, Windows uses  (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for
> instance.
> So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it,
> or filing bugs or whatever.
> (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as
> well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...)
> Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied
> in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support
> software developed under such licenses.
> Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple
> done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE.
> So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD
> license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most
> significantly Apple.
> This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code
> in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive.
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