X11 question

[Chris Hill]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Fred Boatwright wrote:

[snip]

> I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg 
> instead.  However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like 
> it will install a huge amount of software that will not get used.  I am 
> reluctant to do this.  I have installed 8.0-RELEASE from the CD and I 
> want to run olvwm for a desktop.  I have been using Solaris 2.6 with the 
> OpenWindows desktop for 12 years and consider it to be as close to 
> perfection as one can get.  I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to 
> move to some other type of Unix on a PC and would like to continue using 
> OpenWindows.  It is probably going to be an uphill battle to get olvwm 
> to work.  Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed?

It really is the simplest way to get X working, and IMHO the least painful 
way to install xorg is to use the package. Without installing the xorg 
meta-port, you'd end up installing a lot of it by hand anyway.

Come to think of it - since olvwm is a port (/usr/ports/x11-wm/olvwm), I 
*guess* it would pull in all of xorg as a dependency anyway.

I, too, took a long time to come around to the idea that it doesn't do any 
harm to have unused software lying around. Disk is cheap; life is short.

Hope this helps.


> Best regards,
> Fred
>
> Tim Kellers wrote:
>>
>> Fred,
>>
>>  From man startx(1):
>>
>> SEE ALSO
>>         xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5)
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> # whereis X
>>
>> If X is installed, it should return:
>>
>> # X: /usr/local/bin/X
>>
>> pkg_which if X is installed should return:
>>
>> # pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X
>>
>> xorg-server-1.7.5,1
>>
>> If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed:
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> # whereis xorg
>>
>> xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg
>>
>> If xorg isn't installed, cd to:
>>
>> /usr/ports/x11/xorg
>>
>> and
>>
>> make config-recursive  (If you add any options, run make
>> config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns)
>>
>> and then
>>
>> make install clean
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Tim Kellers
>>
>> On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote:
>>> Hi Oliver and Tim,
>>>
>>> I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
>>> nothing and man startx returns nothing.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> Tim Kellers wrote:
>>>
>>>> /usr/ports/x11/xinit
>>>>
>>>> On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):
>>>>
>>>> beta# whereis startx
>>>>
>>>> startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz
>>>>
>>>> beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx
>>>>
>>>> xinit-1.2.0
>>>>
>>>> beta# whereis xinit
>>>>
>>>> xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
>>>> /usr/ports/x11/xinit
>>>>
>>>> I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
>>>> /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
>>>> there is this description:
>>>>
>>>> This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production
>>>> release).
>>>>
>>>> Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
>>>> been verified as compliant.
>>>>
>>>> It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
>>>> The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented.
>>>>
>>>> This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Kellers
>>>>
>>>> On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
>>>>> X11
>>>>> but I don't want to install all of them to find it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>>>
>>
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