Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

Gonzalo Nemmi gnemmi at gmail.com
Tue Oct 27 21:57:01 UTC 2009

On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:22:22 pm Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat...
> Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi at gmail.com> writes:
> > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote:
> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >> I can imagine that a lot of people do use sendmail - it's
> >> documented in the handbook for starters. If it was taken out and
> >> replaced with another MTA then there would be complaints that
> >> sendmail has been taken out or "replacement MTA" is the "wrong
> >> one".
> >
> > Well .. someday UFS will be replaced by ZFS ..
> Maybe.  That's still quite a way out, and who knows what else will
> come along in the meantime?

A heavily armed Oracle lawyers squad team with 9mm. and willing to use 
them without a second thught??
Just a joke =P

> >                                             .. and one day Perl
> > just dissapeard from base .. yet the worl kept turning, and even
> > better .. no one got hurt ;)
> I remember quite a bit of pain.  It was worth it, because maintaining
> perl in the base was causing pain on an ongoing basis, but it was a
> problem for users in a number of different ways.

See what I mean?
It actually paid off for most people .. but do you remember all the 
complaining that went on back then?
What makes it any different now?

And what would you say ... removing perl was more daunting that 
replacing Senmail? Honest question.

> > in the other hand, those not complaining, will probably be really
> > happy .. so ...
> So you keep saying, but I don't think there's any solid evidence. 
> Your experience is one thing, but although I consider myself a
> postfix user, I have machines that run sendmail because it just
> worked for their purpose with no configuration at all.

Didn't the same thing happen when perl was removed?
Some complaining, some cheering ...

> > Doesn't ZFS mean that you have to reconfigure (or even reinstall)
> > your system?
> No.  Your old configuration works just fine if you still want to keep
> using it.  You won't get the advantages of ZFS, but having it in
> FreeBSD didn't bre

Oh, sorry Lowell, I mean you had to reconfigure (or even reinstall) if 
you want to make use of it :)
Sorry, I should've been more clear about that.

Best Regards

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