ion windows manager on FreeBSD

Renato Botelho rbgarga at
Tue Oct 6 17:57:00 UTC 2009

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3 at> wrote:
> * Mark Linimon (linimon at wrote:
>> The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were
>> not in compliance with the 28-day clause.  A long, acrimonious disucssion
>> ensued.  In that discussion, the author was asked "if we agree to meet
>> that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remove
>> any further legal threat?" and he said yes ...
>> for now.
>> But that he reserved the right to change his mind later.
>> *depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in
>> adhering to the *existing clauses* like the "significant" clause or
>> "renamed" clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any
>> lawsuit.
>> Legally indefensible?  Of course.  Would that prevent a lawsuit being
>> filed?  No.  Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
> Well, if you insist I of course won't commit it. But the whole thing
> disappoints me greately, cause I was pretty sure at least FreeBSD
> developers won't be affected by a mere FUD. Do you honestly think
> the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, say, me suing, well,
> us?  And that anything will change by us not providing a port we
> have absolutely totally utterly 100% right to provide?  That is
> just silly.
> The port from now on is available here (removed from

You can start a fork of it, change its name, its license, and keep it as
a separate project... people will use the same software with another

Everybody will be happy and we won't have a Tuomo's software inside
ports collection again.

Renato Botelho

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