Ports on Macbook

Da Rock rock_on_the_web at comcen.com.au
Tue Mar 3 04:13:25 PST 2009

On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 22:37 -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote:
> > > That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply
> > > open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the
> > > EULA.
> >
> > Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden.
> That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden.  The Mac OS X 
> license agreements are contained in a PDF file here:
> http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf
> There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden.  Using on-line 
> translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; 
> use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement.  If you do not 
> agree, you are requested to return the software.  Presumably, the retail 
> materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is 
> presented and must be agreed to before use.
> I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements 
> and are aware of Swedish law.  While what you are doing may or may not be in 
> violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is not a 
> handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and 
> ill-advised.
> Consider what you're suggesting:  If EULA's and license agreements simply 
> weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from 
> occuring?  I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't 
> enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business.

I don't see how one could assume that software piracy (copying software
illegally in this context) would be suddenly legal based simply on the
eula being invalid. EULA's are for the USE of software- not the copying
and selling of those copies of it.

> ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their 
> license agreements in order to prevent it.  
> > If you are under 18 you can't make any 
> > legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission.
> That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or guardians 
> are usually held responsible.
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