Gary Gatten Ggatten at
Wed Jun 3 18:57:34 UTC 2009

Yes, and that old urban legend, that Windows NT is "better" than VMS, so
the initials are one higher in each position - at least in my alphabet:


Lots of interesting little things between VMS and WNT.


PS: Sorry again for top posting - I'll try harder!  Is this appropriate
topic for this list? ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions at
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions at] On Behalf Of David Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Wojciech Puchar
Cc: cpghost; Polytropon; freebsd-questions at; Glen Barber
Subject: Re: Open_Source

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:32:38PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >A counter-example is VMS. It is a commercial product, but highly
> >reliable and secure.
> At least is said too, i never used or even seen VMS.

When Digital Equipment Corporation collapsed, the architect(s) of VMS
went to Microsoft and were given NT to mold in their own likeness. This
is where rings of security levels originated in modern Windows.

NT 3.5 and possibly 4.0 supported VMS-like versioned files as part of
the filesystem.

David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly at
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
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