Suggestion
Ryan da Silva
rdasilva at Greenfield.com
Sun Jan 4 17:29:08 PST 2009
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks everyone. The serial console is a good point.<BR>
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Ryan<BR>
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----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: Modulok <modulok at gmail.com><BR>
To: Frank Shute <frank at shute.org.uk>; cpghost <cpghost at cordula.ws>; Ryan da Silva; freebsd-questions at freebsd.org <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org><BR>
Sent: Sun Jan 04 19:21:58 2009<BR>
Subject: Re: Suggestion<BR>
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> > "FreeBSD" is displayed in large font with, ASCII characters, reminds me<BR>
> > of the 1990`s with BBS`s. Don`t get me wrong, I loved the days of the<BR>
> > BBS. But it`s 2009 and FreeBSD is a solid, professional,<BR>
> > enterprise-grade operating system and the silly ASCII logo is the only<BR>
> > thing that says amateur about the product.<BR>
<BR>
Gratuitous misuse of iconic representations, logos and other pointless<BR>
flair is one of the reasons I moved to beastie. The thing that makes<BR>
me think of it as a 'professional enterprise-grade operating system'<BR>
is that I can deploy it and not have to worry about it. The<BR>
documentation is also excellent. It is these things that make it good,<BR>
not loading screens, glossy icons, buttons and logos. Besides, I like<BR>
the little ASCII logo. Ironic for a visual effects artist though :)~<BR>
<BR>
To each his own.<BR>
-Modulok-<BR>
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On 1/4/09, Frank Shute <frank at shute.org.uk> wrote:<BR>
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 04:02:53PM +0100, cpghost wrote:<BR>
>><BR>
>> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 01:26:03AM -0500, Ryan da Silva wrote:<BR>
>> > Someone needs to change the FreeBSD boot menu. The way the word/logo<BR>
>> > "FreeBSD" is displayed in large font with, ASCII characters, reminds me<BR>
>> > of the 1990`s with BBS`s. Don`t get me wrong, I loved the days of the<BR>
>> > BBS. But it`s 2009 and FreeBSD is a solid, professional,<BR>
>> > enterprise-grade operating system and the silly ASCII logo is the only<BR>
>> > thing that says amateur about the product. I would try to make the<BR>
>> > change myself for myself, but i am not a programmer.<BR>
>><BR>
>> You can change the logo yourself, e.g. to Beastie.<BR>
>> Just add this line to /boot/loader.conf:<BR>
>><BR>
>> loader_logo="beastie"<BR>
><BR>
> and:<BR>
><BR>
> loader_color="YES"<BR>
><BR>
> to get beastie in all his colourful glory ;)<BR>
><BR>
>><BR>
>> If you want to change the logo or add a new one,<BR>
>> have a look at /boot/beastie.4th. That's where<BR>
>> the graphics are. This is Forth, so the code may<BR>
>> seem a little bit opaque at first.<BR>
>><BR>
>> > I love this product and would like to suggest changing that<BR>
>> > screen. To what? I don't know. Maybe instead of the large logo<BR>
>> > simply put "FreeBSD version XXX, copy right" etc. Or heck, maybe a<BR>
>> > color bootscreen like GRUB has in Linux (from what i've seen in<BR>
>> > Centos/Trixbox).<BR>
>><BR>
>> The beastie logo is in ANSI-color (there's a bw version of it<BR>
>> too). You can create your own ANSI-color representation of your<BR>
>> customized logo too.<BR>
>><BR>
>> A fully graphical boot logo (e.g. by switching to VESA) won't be so<BR>
>> good, because there are many users out there who boot FreeBSD on<BR>
>> headless devices (like Soekris), which don't have the appropriate<BR>
>> circuitry and have to fall back to the serial console. That's why<BR>
>> the current boot screen is very good: it's lightweight, portable,<BR>
>> and to a certain extent customizable.<BR>
><BR>
> Oliver Fromme was working on a graphical bootloader:<BR>
><BR>
> <A HREF="http://wiki.freebsd.org/OliverFromme/BootLoader">http://wiki.freebsd.org/OliverFromme/BootLoader</A><BR>
><BR>
> The page was last updated in July by the looks of it.<BR>
><BR>
> <snip><BR>
>><BR>
>> Regards,<BR>
>> -cpghost.<BR>
><BR>
> Regards,<BR>
><BR>
> --<BR>
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> Frank<BR>
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> Contact info: <A HREF="http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html">http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html</A><BR>
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