w(5) shows non-existent or lost process?
Anton Shterenlikht
mexas at bristol.ac.uk
Wed Feb 18 01:16:16 PST 2009
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 07:08:41PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:43:30 +0000 Anton Shterenlikht <mexas at bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > The who (or w, or finger) command shows that I'm still logged into ttyp5,
> > even though I have rebooted the <xxx> box many times since. Does this mean
> > the corresponding entry in /var/run/utmp is wrong and shouldn't be there, or is there
> > still some process attached to ttyp5?
>
> Certainly the former, given you've rebooted. I've had occasions when
> utmp gets silly, though not for ages. Abrupt shutdown / power loss?
>
> > ouput of w:
> >
> > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT
> > mexas p4 <xxx> 1:32pm - w
> > mexas p5 <xxx>:0. 26Jan09 21days -
> >
> > ps ax | grep ttyp5
> > shows no process
>
> ps would only list it as 'p5' anyway.
>
> 'w -d' may be a bit more informative:
>
> % w -d
> 6:00PM up 68 days, 15:22, 1 user, load averages: 0.58, 0.23, 0.13
> USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT
> 3733 login [pam] (login)
> 3734 -csh (csh)
> 7333 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> 7351 /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit /home/smithi/.xinitrc -- -auth /home/smithi/.serverauth.7333 -nolisten tcp
> 7352 X :0 -auth /home/smithi/.serverauth.7333 -nolisten tcp (Xorg)
> 7356 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
> 7421 kwrapper ksmserver
> smithi v7 - 12Dec08 68days /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit /home/smithi/.xinitrc -- -auth /
>
> > Looking at w(1) man page it seems that "-" in WHAT can be an indication
> > that the process failed but not cleanly and that there could be some forked
> > sub-process still alive. Does this make sense? Which other commands I can use
> > to see what's going on?
>
> utmp(5) makes good bedtime reading :)
>
> /var/log/wtmp can get messed up sometimes too, especially if you're
> logged in when periodic(8) monthly rotates it, but tools include:
>
> % last
> smithi ttyp5 dolores Mon Feb 2 15:52 - 15:57 (00:05)
> wtmp begins Mon Feb 2 15:52:27 EST 2009
>
> !last -f /var/log/wtmp.0
> smithi ttyp5 rock.-----.org Mon Jan 26 19:37 - 23:17 (03:40)
> smithi ttyp5 rock.-----.org Thu Jan 15 21:30 - 21:45 (00:14)
> smithi ttyp5 rock.-----.org Thu Jan 15 18:04 - 18:05 (00:00)
> smithi ttyp5 rock.-----.org Thu Jan 15 18:01 - 18:03 (00:01)
> somebody ftp ww.xxx.yyy.zz Thu Jan 1 10:47 - 10:50 (00:03)
> [..]
>
> % who
> smithi ttyv7 Dec 12 02:39
> % who /var/log/wtmp.0
> [..]
> somebody ftp61687 Jan 1 10:47 (ww.xxx.yyy.zz)
> smithi ttyp5 Jan 15 18:01 (rock.-----.org)
> smithi ttyp5 Jan 15 18:04 (rock.-----.org)
> smithi ttyp5 Jan 15 21:30 (rock.-----.org)
> smithi ttyp5 Jan 26 19:37 (rock.-----.org)
>
> % who am i
> smithi ttyp4 Feb 18 18:16
> % tty
> /dev/ttyp4
>
> you could try opening enough xterms (ono) so your ttyp5 is used, then
> exit them cleanly? Failing that, you can boot single user, mount /var,
> rm /var/run/utmp, hit ^D (or reboot) .. IIRC I had to do that once; not
> sure what happens if you rm /var/run/utmp while running multi-user! :)
Ian, thank you. It's gone. Perhaps in the meantime I did log on to ttyp5 and exited
cleanly. Thanks for the tips anyway.
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Anton Shterenlikht
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