man -t odd page size
Valentin Bud
valentin.bud at gmail.com
Thu Oct 23 01:45:02 PDT 2008
hello,
what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/.
i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the SI
(ess eye)
unit system.
so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize.
a good day,
v
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ian Smith <smithi at nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:35:25 -0200 Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 10:38:40 pm Polytropon wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> Polytropon: thanks for pdfman script - but does 'pdfman ipfw' work for
> you? Here the 'overprinting' is misaligned in gv, while others are ok.
>
> > > I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable
> > > without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple
> > > filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters)
> > > into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex.
> >
> > Exactly .. you got it just the way I wanted .. after your explanantion,
> the
> > question _begs_ to be asked: do we, citizens of ISO 216 adopting
> countries,
> > have to walk that cumbersome path in order to get something as simple as
> an
> > ISO compliant document??
> >
> > Shouldn't it be the other way around???
> >
> > Does an inmensily huge majority have to walk the extra mile in order to
> get an
> > ISO compliant document whereas a small minority benefits from having non
> ISO
> > complaint default formats???
>
> Gonzalo: shouldn't that be 'the extra kilometre?' :)
>
> Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your
> theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese?
>
> I doubt an 'immensely huge majority' of FreeBSD systems are located
> outside the US (data at http://www.bsdstats.org/freebsd/countries.php
> notwithstanding, reckoning Australia to have the most FreeBSD users :)
>
> > I, for once, would pretty much like to know the logic behind that
> decision.
>
> It's not logic, nor even a decision, but simply a matter of tradition.
>
> > > > and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the
> default
> > > > choice for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US
> but
> > > > useless in the rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the
> > > > likes???
>
> I've yet to run into any printing or display software that didn't offer
> a wide choice of formats, including A4 and many other A* sizes, so what
> any particular software chooses as its 'default' scarcely matters.
>
> > > You're getting my thoughts, man. :-) I'd like to see this happen,
> > > too, but I don't think the developers of FreeBSD and all the fine
> > > applications will say goodbye to their Letter, Legal, Exec etc.
> > > paper formats. A4 isn't a DIN standard anymore, its ISO for many
> > > years now, and unlike Letter, it has the ability to be scaled
> > > (to half size, to quarter size, to double size) easily. Today,
> > > the manual replacement of many different settings is needed to
> > > get a system A4 compliant.
> > >
> > > Greetings from Germany, where A4 is the standard for more than
> > > a century now. =^_^=
> >
> > I really hope they do, or at least, start contemplating the fact that
> ISO
> > standards are usefull as a whole or are not usefull at all ..
>
> That's not true at all; there's no 'all or nothing' about standards.
> What actually works and is adopted in the real world determines that.
>
> Ask yourself: how come the world uses TCP/IP for internet communications
> rather than the OSI X.200-X.219 suite? How come we're still using SMTP
> plus a pile of RFCs to deliver email rather than the X.400-X.420 suite?
>
> Apart from SNMP and its use of (a subset of) the ASN.1 / BER notation,
> and the X.500-X.521 directory services model to the extent of X.501
> certificates, not much of the massive CCITT / OSI / ISO 'standards' have
> ever entered common usage, most being a camel designed by committee.
>
> In '91 I bought three 'fascicles' (volumes) of the CCITT Blue Book for
> the best part of A$500, then convinced it was the way things would go.
> I was entirely wrong :) but I don't regret that study for ASN.1 alone.
>
> > Gretings from Argentina, where A4 is the standard from 1943.
> >
> > And yes .. so are the metric system, kilograms, litres, etc :)
>
> I suspect the Yanquis will abandon letter, legal etc paper sizes around
> the same time they jettison pounds and ounces, feet and inches, gallons
> and pints .. that is, you probably shouldn't be holding your breath :)
>
> cheers, Ian
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