re changing from vista

Bruce Cran bruce at
Mon Nov 17 05:35:33 PST 2008

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:41:27 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar <wojtek at> wrote:

> >> improving FreeBSD, there wouldn't be a need to "convert".  "Build
> >> it (and secure/stabilise it) and they will come".
> >
> > Indeed, what IS the value of more users to a volunteer project like
> > FreeBSD?
> to some level - better driver support. but 
> windows-converters-seeking-for-nicer-windows don't write drivers.
> this level is OK, more users can make only harm.
> exactly what happened with linux.
> as heavyweight "sponsors" did. they pay but request not just adding 
> drivers but to add strange-but-trendy features and solutions that
> take system's quality down quickly.
> exactly that happened to NetBSD. i recently installed newest NetBSD 
> version just to look at it. it was damn slow and even slower under
> high load!!
> not mentioning linux that got just billion$ total sposoring from IBM.

Could you point out some of those strange-but-trendy features?  I tried
Ubuntu for a while on my laptop and it more or less Just Works.  It
boots up quickly, detects all my devices, has accelerated 3D etc.
Now I did move back to FreeBSD because I had problems with its
autodetection system - in particular the graphics card wasn't
configured properly. But that's a problem with Ubuntu specifically, and
I could just as easily have switched to Debian or Gentoo where more
manual configuration is required - just like in FreeBSD.   One of the
strengths of Linux is that if you find one of the new trendy features
doesn't work, you can generally just build a new kernel - without
including it. If it's user-space you don't like - well, that's a
problem with the distribution, not linux itself.

Bruce Cran

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