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matt donovan kitchetech at
Sun Nov 16 16:55:39 PST 2008

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Charlie Kester <corky1951 at>wrote:

> * FBSD UG <freebsd at> [2008-11-17 01:20:47 +0100]:
>> On 17 nov 2008, at 01:02, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>  Learn from other's mistakes (like linux,netbsd), instead of repeating
>>> and repeating the same mistake again.
>>>  why not learn from where it went wrong and do it better?  If FreeBSD
>> becomes popular we'll have to deal with it sooner or later
> I don't want to fan the flames, but isn't that exactly what Wojciech is
> suggesting?  That Linux went wrong when it began to cater too much to
> the perceived need to give former Windows users a "user-friendly"
> system?
> Anyway, I suspect that this discussion more properly belongs on the
> advocacy mailing list. The OP's question probably should have been
> directed there in the first place.
> Let's drop it here, and get back to answering the kind of howto
> questions where this list excels.
> -- Charlie
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yes this should have gone to the advocacy mailing list really, and from what
I got from what Wojciech said is that he thinks that FreeBSD will come with
a gui installed by default.

 I don't think that's what most of us are thinking when we are thinking of
new users.
We are thinking of users that actually know or want to control their
complete system.

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