FreeBSD & Linux distro
oscartheduck at gmail.com
Thu Feb 21 02:38:23 UTC 2008
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:24 -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> Chad Perrin wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >> [ snip a bunch of stuff ]
> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>> A good rundown of some of the differences.
> >>> Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists
> >>> of comparrisons.
> >> Sure. I'll polish it up and post it somewhere in that polished form,
> >> then reply here. If not today, I'll aim to get it done tomorrow.
> > Okay, posted:
> > http://arc.apotheon.org/freebsd/vs_linux.html
> > If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know.
> Hi Chad,
> Here is my honest opinion. I hope it will help you improve the post :-)
> I didn't like very much the tone of the article as well as some
> pejorative conclusion. If you are going to post something even
> as a FreeBSD advocacy the tone of the article should be neutral and all
> claims verifiable. Do not get me wrong. I
> do not like Linux and more over I have never used it in my life but I
> would have hard time to swallow some of your claims.
> How would you feel if I tell you that I use mostly OpenBSD because it is
> easier for work than FreeBSD and in my experience much more stable than
> FreeBSD. Those are my subjective feelings and probably have little to
> do with the reality. If anything statement like that are irritating and
> have no value to a person who is deciding between using OpenBSD or FreeBSD.
> Try to find on the internet couple of advocacy articles by Greg Lehey.
> They are very well-written.
> Example: Statement of the type BSD appears more stable than Linux is
> Statement of the type FreeBSD is direct decedent of the BSD flavor of
> Unix started in mid seventies at the University of California Berkley
> while the Linux kernel is Unix clone started in 1993 based on the
> mixture of System V and BSD Unix is
> verifiable. Or 80% of all servers with longest up time run FreeBSD is
> something that can be verified.
> You should definitely address the following things
> 1. FreeBSD is longer in the development than Linux.
> 2. Probably 80% of the servers with the longest UP time run FreeBSD.
> Give a link. Easy to find.
Just a note -- linux is often not included in the lists of longest
uptime because it has a feature whereby the uptime counter resets itself
after a period of time.
> 3. FreeBSD is a COMPLETE operating system GNU/Linux is not.
> 4. It has different development and engineering process than Linux.
> 5. It has better quality control at least because Linux has no quality
> control at all.
> 6. The Largest FTP sever on the world run FreeBSD (your beloved freebsd.org)
> 7. FreeBSD has one of the best systems for the installation of the third
> party software (ports and do not forget packages
> as some people will jump at you and make a claim that Debian has better
> packaging system as it is more efficient than compiling things from ports)
> 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only
> second to Debian.
> 9. One of the best documented systems
> 10. Mention the advantage of the BSD license comparing to GPL for the
> commercial use.
> 11. It is philosophically different than most Linux distros as all
> services are turned of by default.
> 12. Unlike Linux it doesn't claim that is the best and most suitable for
> everything. If you need security then Open is better choice. If you
> need something for embedded devices probably Net is better choice.
> 13. More secure than Linux if for no other reason but for PF which is
> ported from OpenBSD. Note that PF is not ported for Linux.
> 14. Kernel security level concept doesn't exist in Linux.
> Try to disperse common myth that BSD doesn't support hardware but do not
> be shy to admit that lack support for things like
> video conferencing.
> Do not be shy to admit that virtualization is poor and maybe
> intensionally as quite of few people do not believe that putting
> somebody's else cra*p on the top of FreeBSD will not make that cra*p
> working better or be more secure. If you need Window's application run
> Does it make a good Desktop system? Depends what do you mean by that. If
> you need everything working out of box
> for your grandmother Mily probably not. If you need Flash and Java
> plug-ins probably not. But if you need ROCK solid
> workstation for academic work, occasional multimedia and want to be 100%
> in control of your computer like me it is the best desktop OS around.
> Most Kind Regards,
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