ISO Images/Releases/FTP Servers

Tim Judd tajudd at
Mon Dec 8 19:48:48 PST 2008

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Kevin Monceaux <Kevin at> wrote:

> FreeBSD Fans,
> I'm experiencing irritation.  Would someone have a long talk with whoever
> is responsible for the ISO images, release names, and/or the FTP servers,
> depending on where the root if this irritation lies?
> <rant>
> I've installed FreeBSD briefly a couple of times on my home desktop box.
> Recently I've been taking an install on vmware from the 7.1-BETA2 ISO,
> bootonly - installed via FTP, for a spin to jog my memory a bit in
> preparation to perform another install.  All worked well under vmware.  I
> didn't try zfs as I figured I'd just wait for the real install for that.
> After getting home from work today I started the install process.  This is
> roughly how it went.
> I booted the 7.1-BETA2 ISO and wiped out my Gentoo installation.  I
> sliced/partitioned my hard drives.  I then fired up a fixit shell to go
> through the root on UFS plus everything else on ZFS procedures I had used
> the last time around.  I tried to load zfs.ko and kldload said it didn't
> exist.  ls verified that it did indeed exist, but kldload refused to load
> it.  At this point I had wiped out the Gentoo install on the only functional
> PC I have in the house.  Well, there's a Pentium MMX 200Mhz box in the
> closet with an ooooooooold Mandrake install on it but it's power supply fan
> tries to be difficult most of the time.
> After grumbling for a few moments I pulled out a 7.0-STABLE-200807 livefs
> CD I had and tried using it for the fixit shell.  It complained about the
> versions not matching, but started the fixit shell and I was able to load
> zfs.ko and create my zfs pool and filesystems.  I try to start the install,
> pick a ZFS server and it complains that it can't find release 7.1-BETA2 on
> the FTP server.  I went blank on release naming schemes.  I tried several
> things to no avail.  So, I finally decide to start over and install from the
> 7.0-STABLE-200807 ISO I have handy.  I get to the same point and it
> complains that it can't find release 7.0-STABLE-200807 on the FTP server.
>  Fortunately after a few tries I was able to do a better job of jogging my
> poor memory and made the installer happy using 7.0-RELEASE as the release
> name.  Would someone please:
> A.  Keep the releases available on the FTP servers for a reasonable amount
>    of time.
> and/or
> B.  Add functionality to the installer to list the available releases if
>    it can't find the release it's looking for.
> </rant>
> Kevin
> Bruceville, TX

So Kevin, your rant is completely based on BETAs, Snapshots, and probably
RC's if we had any available.

All three of those ARE NOT RELEASES.

Those are come-n-go folders/directories on the ftp servers.

Each release will stay on the sites and mirrors as long as they're in
support (not EoL).  If it bugs you so much that the Snapshots, BETAs, and
RCs aren't constantly on the ftp servers, make your own local mirror on your
own subnet.

I'd recommend downloading the 7.0-RELEASE iso's and use that as a basis,
until 7.1 is RELEASED, then use those as a source.

I'm sorry to come down like this, but I find your rant unrooted and shaky.

Good luck.

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