kline at thought.org
Mon Aug 18 22:37:04 UTC 2008
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 03:57 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:41:42 -0700, Gary Kline <kline at thought.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 02:02 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > Yes, since I need to use FreeBSD 7 after an accident destroying all
> > > my data where fsck cannot help anymore, and FreeBSD 7 and it's
> > > software does not behave the way I think it should... :-(
> > >
After my Nov., 1999 disk failure, I found that my 4G tape had
overwritten stuff; I lost 10 months of data files. .... .
> > i know the feeling.
> It's not that I want to complain, I'll stay with FreeBSD,
> I'm just a little upset. Things behave much slower, allthough
> the system boots faster. X and the applications seem to eat up
> every bit of performance boost the new OS gave them.
Are you using gcc 4.3 with -O3? I have noticed that 4.3 generates
faster binaries. Still, I cringe with 7.0. I haven't tried to compute
the 7th root of infinity yet, :-) ... .
> In the "good old times", you could update your applications
> and they ran faster on the same hardware. That's what I've loved
> FreeBSD for. Today, the applications run slower after every
> update, so I have to update my hardware in order to just keep
> the speed?
....Sounds like DOS/Windows. Every new release, Intel counts up its
$billions in faster uprocessors. With our stuff, it may be X11 and
possibly sloppy hacking. I can't tell since I just gave away my old
750MHz for a 2.4GHz Dell.
> (Off topic, sorry.)
> > xdm works very well, but only tried logging in as root.
> > missing .xsession and .ctwmrc that i used more many, Many years.
> > i'll tell you, after using FBSD since 2.0.5, i'm ready to give omething
> > prepackaged a try.
> The only things I do compile is wirld, kernel, and mplayer.
> For everything else, pkg_add -r is very welcome.
> By the way, compiling lasts much longer in FreeBSD 7. I think
> this is due to more optimization, but from 1 to 9 hours...
> what's wrong here?!
Examples, please? ball-park [estimates] for times are okay.
The worst ting for me is re-compiling OO
> Of course, xdm won't give you the functionality that kdm
> offers. A nice replacement for xdm, by the way, is wdm,
> which you can use together with Windowmaker, but without it,
> too. Especially if you want to use different window managers,
> wdm allows a simple means to switch them at login time.
Ah, you may be the perfect man to ask about this multi-wm launch daemon.
I saw it once a long, long time ago. I would really like to try
different window managers. I used ctwm for Years, but that sseemed
to limit my use of certain apps. Mostly in the Gnome/KDE world. Soooo,
bit bit bit I got used to the default gnome desktop/wm on my Ubuntu
computer. I wound up trying KDE and used it until it finally broke
after a power surge or power-out.
What are your top w managers?
> > To the LIST: I found my missing .xinitrc. but now my .xsession file is
> > gone.
> This is my ~/.xsession: It allows sourcing of the settings
> from ~/.cshrc (because the C shell is my usual dialog shell)
> and then executes ~/.xinitrc:
> source ~/.cshrc
> exec ~/.xinitrc
> So you can keep all your settings in ~/.xinitrc, for example:
> xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
> xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a
> xset b 100 1000 15 &
> xset r rate 250 30 &
> xset s off &
> xset -dpms &
> exec wmaker
> Both files are +x attributes.
I'll try your startup config, thanks. Sometimes I'll get up but my
xmodmap never touch my rc file; bothers me.
> > going to reboot after rm'ing kdm.pid.
> You should be able to restart kdm from the console, but I think
> your setting includes automatic kdm start after system startup,
> controlled by /etc/ttys.
Right. There is a way of havving gnome boot into graphics mode, but
since I'm a CLI type ----except for Xterms ----, I like to see the
The portupgrade finished; time to reboot and see if that fixed
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